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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2011, 02:00:01 PM »
Tanking in AH requires way to much control input for just one person to operate and to be frank, it's a pain up the backside. I'm glad HTC are making it more "easy".
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2011, 02:23:16 PM »
Pyro   How about a key to lock the guns' movement while the key's pressed, e.g. if you want to only look around for SA and keep the turret pointed at a target or aimed exactly to hit a distant target?
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2011, 02:28:41 PM »
Pyro   How about a key to lock the guns' movement while the key's pressed, e.g. if you want to only look around for SA and keep the turret pointed at a target or aimed exactly to hit a distant target?

That would be nice, but if it isn't offered it looks like you could look around from the machine gun cupola without traversing the turret.

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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2011, 02:33:12 PM »
The view system is still live and sits on top of all this so you can still look around without moving the turret.

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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2011, 02:44:24 PM »
The view system is still live and sits on top of all this so you can still look around without moving the turret.

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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2011, 02:50:17 PM »
The view system is still live and sits on top of all this so you can still look around without moving the turret.

It looks terrific. :aok   But I have to admit that my slow brain got confused by this last post.  I thought in the commander position the gun funtions was slaved to the view system. But it sounds like theyare seperate. Yet there is a gun-barrel view. So when you're in teh commander position, do you toggle between view and commander-gun-control view, with the option to move to the gunsite for more acurate gun control?  If it a lengthy explanation, I can just wait til it comes out.  :salute
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2011, 02:53:36 PM »
It looks terrific. :aok   But I have to admit that my slow brain got confused by this last post.  I thought in the commander position the gun funtions was slaved to the view system. But it sounds like theyare seperate. Yet there is a gun-barrel view. So when you're in teh commander position, do you toggle between view and commander-gun-control view, with the option to move to the gunsite for more acurate gun control?  If it a lengthy explanation, I can just wait til it comes out.  :salute
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2011, 02:55:50 PM »
it's shown in the video...watch it closely

Is it? OK, I'll watch it again.  :salute
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2011, 02:59:21 PM »
I am curious about speed control, without manual trans. 

So, if I release the accelerator (W key) before I reach speed to change a gear, what is the response?  Steady speed?  Speed increases to the Max for that gear? or continues to grab speed and change gears? 

Also, have you tried the trans out on steep down hills?  Wondering how that all will work without the gearing (brakes) that we are accustomed to. 

These are really questions that can be answered when the model is actually here.  Mostly things that I hope are important to you all also. 

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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2011, 03:03:31 PM »
Pyro, any chance we can map the throttling to our thottles with our joysticks? 
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2011, 03:05:38 PM »
can u still put it in neutral?

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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2011, 03:10:02 PM »
I actually think the current system is artificially hard in many ways.  The new system I think will do a better job of representing crew operations than we currently have.  On top of that it sounds like it will speed up the development cycle on new GV's which is good thing. :)

I totally agree with everything you stated above.  I like the challenge of having to learn the in's and out's of our current system.  I'm not saying I disagree with the new changes, it just appears it will be a lot eaiser.  Not sure if that is good or bad, but as always I look forward to advancements in the game.

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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2011, 03:12:04 PM »
I am curious about speed control, without manual trans. 

So, if I release the accelerator (W key) before I reach speed to change a gear, what is the response?  Steady speed?  Speed increases to the Max for that gear? or continues to grab speed and change gears? 

Also, have you tried the trans out on steep down hills?  Wondering how that all will work without the gearing (brakes) that we are accustomed to. 

first thing I thought of is, no more neutral downhill runs at 100+ mph  :cry

I can live without them tho.
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2011, 03:18:16 PM »
Thanks Pyro.

Vinkman view and aiming are only different in that you now aim with either joystick or mouse.  Joystick never commands faster than the weapon's traverse speed, while mouse does; with the weapon chasing your view heading.  On top of all that you've still got the view system, pan or snap etc.
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Re: Video of some upcoming tank changes
« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2011, 03:21:02 PM »
 :aok

It's a step away from simulation and realism, but it's a good step this time for sure.  This will bring more people to the tanking game in AH and make it more enjoyable for many looking to have some fun.  It's not too far of a leap into the "gamey" realm eather, it is definetley not very realistic (commanders having that much control of exact aim or positioning of their vehicles at their finger-tips in WWII), but not too unrealsitic (commanders did have command and ultimate authority of these things in their tanks).


Pyro, could you maybe indulge or give us a peek into how this new system will work and look on the wirbles/ostwinds, if I understand correctly it sounds like those will still have a driver and gunner position, but it sounds like it might be a new experience gunning in the gunner's seat with a mouse.  Also, similar question with the field guns at bases, I bet those will be a lot nicer to gun at low and fast moving targets with a mouse now too.  (...and sorry to bring this up, but the panther scope renovation flipped a switch in my head, maybe an ar234 forward and rear-looking periscope in the forseable future?...)
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