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Offline MaSonZ

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B29 Bombsight
« on: March 24, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »
wow...thing is sooo effed. Did the run with Swoops Tuesday night, gave it more lead then was recomended and hit my target...only one out of a flight of 4. saddening how far off it is.
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Offline JOACH1M

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 02:19:32 PM »
Maybe you didnt chec e6b before drop, it helps especially when your bomb sight is off
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 02:55:35 PM »
must be you...no one else has reported any issues.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 03:07:14 PM »
my e6b was checkin out good. I've heard a couple others say the bomb sight is off too.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 03:30:02 PM »
must be you...no one else has reported any issues.

Actually others have mentioned the same thing.  I've noticed it as well even with it well calibrated.  IIRC it drops short.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 03:39:17 PM »
and strangely enough...not a single post in the bugs section...*hint* *hint*

(that's what i was getting at colmbo)

i suppose general discussion is a better place to report it though...anyone got video? if so, get it to pyro and see if he can fix the issue.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 03:39:27 PM »
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 03:41:55 PM »
last entry:

Sorry to say but Krusty is right, the 29 is very hard to bomb with. We have a squad member who has taken over 8 hours to perfect the bombing in a 29. Its not like any other a/c in this game, you dont just up it, bomb and fly home. Speed and RPM's are a big factor when bombing :salute

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thanks marine...i stand corrected.  :salute

bump it to the top mason...
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 03:58:43 PM »
Its off a little if the plane is still accelerating but its easily adjusted for. The hardest thing to get used to is adjusting (slewing) left or right to get the sight on a target which causes something like gyroscopic precession which I believe is accurate considering the Norden bombsight. In fact it should make it almost impossible to use the sight if there is anything more than bombardier steering involved. Like it or hate it this (the B-29) is the best addition to the game in some time IMO.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 04:15:13 PM »
There are 2 major factors in bombing, speed and altitude, the higher your altitude and the faster your speed equals a much narrower "cone of error" if you know what I mean. Think of it this way, I usually bomb with B17's at about 15k and my speed usually is around 230mph. Now at this alt and speed I have a little bit of an error margin where if my speed isn't spot on I can usually still hit my target. On the flip side the B29 is usually flown at 30k and at speeds of 300+mph, this means the error margin is is incredibly small, you have to have your speed and drift set perfectly or else you'll miss.

And one other thing to remember, the game has random bomb drift modeled so no matter how well you're setup your bombs will still drift. At higher alts this means they drift quite a bit.  
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 04:23:53 PM »
There are 2 major factors in bombing, speed and altitude, the higher your altitude and the faster your speed equals a much narrower "cone of error" if you know what I mean. Think of it this way, I usually bomb with B17's at about 15k and my speed usually is around 230mph. Now at this alt and speed I have a little bit of an error margin where if my speed isn't spot on I can usually still hit my target. On the flip side the B29 is usually flown at 30k and at speeds of 300+mph, this means the error margin is is incredibly small, you have to have your speed and drift set perfectly or else you'll miss.

And one other thing to remember, the game has random bomb drift modeled so no matter how well you're setup your bombs will still drift. At higher alts this means they drift quite a bit.  

not only that. but at 30k i found this out. its still increasing in speed. i topped my B-29 out at 381mph at 31,000ft.l
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2011, 04:47:53 PM »
last entry:

date...and topic...didn't register in the old cabeza...  :headscratch:  :old:

thanks marine...i stand corrected.  :salute

bump it to the top mason...
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 01:07:14 PM »
There are 2 major factors in bombing, speed and altitude, the higher your altitude and the faster your speed equals a much narrower "cone of error" if you know what I mean. Think of it this way, I usually bomb with B17's at about 15k and my speed usually is around 230mph. Now at this alt and speed I have a little bit of an error margin where if my speed isn't spot on I can usually still hit my target. On the flip side the B29 is usually flown at 30k and at speeds of 300+mph, this means the error margin is is incredibly small, you have to have your speed and drift set perfectly or else you'll miss.

And one other thing to remember, the game has random bomb drift modeled so no matter how well you're setup your bombs will still drift. At higher alts this means they drift quite a bit.  
I see what your sayin here, but I could up a set of Lancs, or B24's, or B17's and put em at 35K (the alt I was at in this run) and still hit spot on without an issue, not giving the bombs any lead.

I saw a post about the Norden Bombsight. As Accurate as that is /was in reality, this is a game #1, and 2) if HTC modeled the bomb sight to need more skill in the B29 then say a B24 or B17, it would be nice to know. I havent heard anything from any one stating it was modeled to be more challenging in the game then the other bombers.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 01:32:04 PM »
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307720.0.html - Bug section  :devil

That guy has 34 posts and had been playing since November therefore his argument is invalid becuase he probably just doesn't fly good yet.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 01:42:18 PM »
The B-29 is a fast bomber, and that is reflected in the bomb sight.  It isn't as easy to bomb at 380mph as it is at 250mph.  If you're looking for pinpoint accuracy, I would suggest not bombing at full throttle and full rpm.
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