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Offline Smkn

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2011, 09:26:46 PM »
*Big long post on how Chalenge keeps saying it must be user error, even faced with picture proof that it infact is not. :bhead*

*Then deleted the rant because it's not solving the problem, and only causes hate and discontent. :angel:*

*But still wanted to have the jist of what WAS here known... :devil*

I know the bombsite is off. I've proven it to myself and, hopefully, a few others. Will have to adjust accordingly, maybe run tests to find if it becomes "accurate" if the calibrated speed is off by a known amount. (I.E. If you calibrate 10 mph slower then what the B29 is really going....)

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2011, 09:39:20 PM »
On a side note.

I have noticed that the bombs do seem to get quite a scatter coming out of the bomb bay, some go flinging off to the left or right. Makes sense though, it is not as if the B29 was ever laser accurate. Im thinking the designers had more of a "bring X amount of bombs to Y and drop them all" idea.

Although, the bombsight being off doesn't help either.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2011, 09:44:55 PM »
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2011, 09:51:58 PM »
*Big long post on how Chalenge keeps saying it must be user error, even faced with picture proof that it infact is not. :bhead*

*Then deleted the rant because it's not solving the problem, and only causes hate and discontent. :angel:*

*But still wanted to have the jist of what WAS here known... :devil*

I know the bombsite is off. I've proven it to myself and, hopefully, a few others. Will have to adjust accordingly, maybe run tests to find if it becomes "accurate" if the calibrated speed is off by a known amount. (I.E. If you calibrate 10 mph slower then what the B29 is really going....)

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2011, 09:54:56 PM »
^This - Truer words have never been spoken. Everyone automatically ASSUMES they are right 100% of the time, even after evidence proves them wrong. JUST like this thread. The screen shots PROVE the sweety is off yet people still say it's not. I think they don't understand the pictures...even with the big text on them. -_-;

Indeed it is....

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2011, 11:25:59 PM »
No little Smkn I wasnt making any such claim (you DID specifically call me out). What I said was it is easily adjusted for. I also stated that you and others do not have your planes stable and in a non-accelerating state. Any pilot can miss by a great deal more than your screenshots indicate by trying to move the crosshair onto the target just before hitting town. Thats lateral compensation and it will screw up the drop.

Checking out your score I cant even see where you used a B-29 online. I can tell you if I only flew the B-29 and I had 26 sorties in it that my damage points would exceed 75 million (easily) yet you dont even have 1 million. Probably the listening should be going the other way dont you think?

Nevermind though. I also fly fighters and from now on you should probably bring a lot of escorts along with you when you sortie out.  :aok
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2011, 10:29:47 AM »
Awwww, is someone butt hurt?  :cry

Pilot error excuses, digging pilots scores, making insults and threats. Classy guy you are.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2011, 12:01:41 PM »
Gents: You are aiming from the nose of the aircraft. The bombs are dropping from center / rear of aircraft. This difference in distance is the error you are seeing.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2011, 12:43:33 PM »
Answer to the problem - ta daaaaaaaaa
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2011, 12:50:39 PM »
Answer to the problem - ta daaaaaaaaa

I'm not entirely convinced yet. See additional posts in bugs forum :)
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2011, 12:58:25 PM »
I'm not entirely convinced yet. See additional posts in bugs forum :)

I still remain unconvinced, even with word from HiTech.  :O

It just doesn't add up.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2011, 01:29:22 PM »
Gents: You are aiming from the nose of the aircraft. The bombs are dropping from center / rear of aircraft. This difference in distance is the error you are seeing.

HiTech

It just seems odd that the bombsite can compensate for 30k in altitude, but not the additional ~50 feet in fuselage length.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2011, 02:52:24 PM »
Gents: You are aiming from the nose of the aircraft. The bombs are dropping from center / rear of aircraft. This difference in distance is the error you are seeing.

HiTech
makes sense. and now that i have this in my head, was this the case in reality? Even though the Norden was so accurate was it still slightly off for the same reason just listed?





but i have to agree with snail. I'm not fully convinced this is why its so off. I at 35k I put about a full HQ lead on the HQ and hit it. that is a lot of error. and dont say wind..unless Hitech or Skuzz chimes in and says there is wind modeled into bomb dropping.
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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2011, 04:24:57 PM »
makes sense. and now that i have this in my head, was this the case in reality? Even though the Norden was so accurate was it still slightly off for the same reason just listed?





but i have to agree with snail. I'm not fully convinced this is why its so off. I at 35k I put about a full HQ lead on the HQ and hit it. that is a lot of error. and dont say wind..unless Hitech or Skuzz chimes in and says there is wind modeled into bomb dropping.
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I doubt the real sight took the plane length into it's calibration.

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There is wind modeled when the wind is turned on.

The green cross hair /bomb sight/ should be accurate less the randomness that is associated with bombs.

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Re: B29 Bombsight
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2011, 07:35:21 PM »
I doubt the real sight took the plane length into it's calibration.

HiTech

There is wind modeled when the wind is turned on.

The green cross hair /bomb sight/ should be accurate less the randomness that is associated with bombs.

HiTech
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