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Offline Krupinski

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 11:35:57 PM »
Equal pilots La7 vs P51... La7 should win every time.

P51 is of course better if you're a score wh**e!
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 11:38:54 PM »
I think you got the wrong picture, that's a Spitfire.  :cry
thought the same LOL.

back to OP...
Equal pilots La7 vs P51... La7 should win every time.

P51 is of course better of you're a score wh**e!
i agree
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2011, 05:12:48 AM »
Taking into account its considerable advantage in wing-loading and very long WEP, the La7 is actually competitive up to 20K. Just because the La7 has tremendous relative performance at low altitude does NOT mean its performance sucks higher. Of special importance, note that power/weight-as indicated by climb rate-remains essentially better or equal than that of the P-51D up to 18K. Lighter wingloading and equal or superior power/weight translates into winning the dogfight, all other factors being equal, and while the P-51 is faster, it has the problem that it cannot dive to disengage.



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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 07:53:33 AM »
I think you got the wrong picture, that's a Spitfire.  :cry
Its just a 51 picture. Sorry to disappoint ya.
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2011, 03:12:41 PM »
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2011, 03:30:20 PM »
Fixed

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2011, 03:33:05 PM »

....er...doesn't that apply to any plane?  Avoid combat and you're untouchable?

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2011, 05:22:47 PM »
Equal pilots La7 vs P51... La7 should win every time.

I've always felt the opposite -- that La7's seem to be pretty easy to outmaneuver while in a 51, if you get it into a turnfight.

Just what I've experienced. 
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2011, 05:28:03 PM »

....er...doesn't that apply to any plane?  Avoid combat and you're untouchable?

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2011, 06:34:12 PM »
A decent p51 pilot could beet a La7 with the right defensive first move. If the LA7 didn't run for home after the initial merge. :old:

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2011, 06:43:10 PM »
LA7 vs P51....equal pilots the LA will win every time :aok

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2011, 06:54:28 PM »
LA7 vs P51....equal pilots the LA will win every time :aok

How?  I know that's a very generalized question...

I'm genuinely curious here though.

I find that I can get into turning fights, nose down, and more often than not, I end up on the La7's 6 and the La7 will extend away.
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2011, 06:56:00 PM »
How?  I know that's a very generalized question...

I'm genuinely curious here though.

I find that I can get into turning fights, nose down, and more often than not, I end up on the La7's 6 and the La7 will extend away.
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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2011, 07:00:23 PM »
How?  I know that's a very generalized question...

I'm genuinely curious here though.

I find that I can get into turning fights, nose down, and more often than not, I end up on the La7's 6 and the La7 will extend away.

Well, there was an equal pilots caveat. 

If you know that your plane can turn, you are up on about half the folks playing the game. Even if your plane doesn't turn very well. If you understand how to manuever in a different plane from your opponent (i.e. you manuever vertically instead of horizontally, or vice versa) you are up on roughly 95%.

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Re: p51 D vs la7
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2011, 07:00:54 PM »
It all depends on whose terms the fight occurs.  At <10k the Pony will be at a marked disadvantage to the LA7, at higher altitudes the Pony will gain an advantage, and that advantage will increase with altitude.  A Pony has a reasonable chance of winning an engagement against an LA7 in the LA7's low altitude "home" if he brings enough E to the fight.  An LA7 is nearly hopeless against a Pony at his "home" of altitudes greater than 15k.  

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