Seafire LF Mk.III

[RTHolmes]

shouldnt be too much work to model since we dont have folding wings in AH, its basically our Seafire F Mk.IIc with shorter barrels and wing hardpoints. cant find much evidence of the use or not of clipped wingtips. LF makes sense because of its AH usage.

Seafire LF Mk.III
Merlin 55M 1,585 hp @ +18 lb/sq.in boost
1220 produced (F and LF)

2x Hispano Mk.V 120rpg, 4x .303

fuselage: 30gall/45gall slipper tanks, 500lb bomb
wing hardpoints: 2x 250lb bombs, 4x RP-3


(credit: williams/sterling as usual )

[EagleDNY]

I think I'd rather see the Sea Hurricane first - isn't this really just a beefed up Seafire Mk.II? 

[Bruv119]

I think I'd rather see the Sea Hurricane first - isn't this really just a beefed up Seafire Mk.II? 

have em both   

+2

[SgtPappy]

It is, but it's got a different engine that no serving Spitfire/Seafire ever had. Also, the Seafire L.III (as it was more often called) was the most common Seafire ever built.

I very much would like the Seafire III as well, but I believe the planeset would benefit more from other planes first; namely the Ki-43 and Pe-2.

Oh btw Holmes, don't know if some L.III's did utilize clipped tips although the Seafire II (with a 4-blade prop) below shows that some Seafires did have clipped wings.

[RTHolmes]

I suspect quite a few of the LFs had clipped wingtips but without the evidence I'm wary of requesting it. this can be a tough crowd

I know it might be seen as a request for another late war monster; upgraded armament, better mud-moving capability and great low-alt performance, but its the most representative seafire and would be better able to compete with typical MA responses to carrier attacks. and it would be a quick and easy plane to add (although I forgot the hook would need modding too.)


edit: great pic btw, I couldnt find any good ones

edit2: also an interesting addition as its the only spit of WWII to widely adopt the Mk.V hispanos.

[MachFly]

I don't want to say "-1" but I can't give it a "+1" either. We need a late war Seafire, but the one you offered has clipped wings. Clipped wings significantly reduce high altitude performance (that's why our spit16 sucks). I'm all for have a Seafire mk III with elliptical wings.
I also think that Seafire 3 will still lack power (compared for corsairs for example), so I highly recommend a Griffon powered Seafire (I have not decided which exact variant we need).

[waystin2]

+1

[Guppy35]

LFIII with full span wings would be a nice addition.

[RTHolmes]

I also think that Seafire 3 will still lack power (compared for corsairs for example), so I highly recommend a Griffon powered Seafire (I have not decided which exact variant we need).

compared to the -4 then sure, but then everything is underpowered compared to it ...

4,150fpm on the deck and 340mph at 6k isnt too shabby

[Bruv119]

I feel un-British rolling a perked hog to vulch with,  this will solve that massive problem      

the seafire is a little limp wristed to deal with the 5 la's that just upped in different directions 

[Guppy35]

I don't want to say "-1" but I can't give it a "+1" either. We need a late war Seafire, but the one you offered has clipped wings. Clipped wings significantly reduce high altitude performance (that's why our spit16 sucks). I'm all for have a Seafire mk III with elliptical wings.
I also think that Seafire 3 will still lack power (compared for corsairs for example), so I highly recommend a Griffon powered Seafire (I have not decided which exact variant we need).

Problem is the XV didn't get there in time.  The Seafire III is the most representative an scored the last Seafire kill of the war.  As much as it pains me to say the XV wouldn't fit, as it's the RN version of the Spit XII, it missed the war.  That's the only Griffon Seafire that even got close and it wasn't operational til early 46.

[MachFly]

Problem is the XV didn't get there in time.  The Seafire III is the most representative an scored the last Seafire kill of the war.  As much as it pains me to say the XV wouldn't fit, as it's the RN version of the Spit XII, it missed the war.  That's the only Griffon Seafire that even got close and it wasn't operational til early 46.

Could you tell me where you found that out? I believe what you said, it's just that I could not find that information anywhere, therefore you probably have a good source which I don't.

Thanks

[Guppy35]

Could you tell me where you found that out? I believe what you said, it's just that I could not find that information anywhere, therefore you probably have a good source which I don't.

Thanks

Best book on the Seafire is by Donald Brown and called "The Seafire"    A number of copies for not much cost on abebooks.com
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=David+Brown&sts=t&tn=The+Seafire&x=0&y=0

If you are a Seafire fan, that's the one I'd get.

The first Squadron to get XVs was 802 FAA in May 45, but the war ended before they ever got to a carrier or into action. 

This is found in any number of Spitfire books including the 'bible' of Spitfire books, "Spitfire The History" by E.B. Morgan

[MachFly]

Best book on the Seafire is by Donald Brown and called "The Seafire"    A number of copies for not much cost on abebooks.com
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=David+Brown&sts=t&tn=The+Seafire&x=0&y=0

If you are a Seafire fan, that's the one I'd get.

The first Squadron to get XVs was 802 FAA in May 45, but the war ended before they ever got to a carrier or into action. 

This is found in any number of Spitfire books including the 'bible' of Spitfire books, "Spitfire The History" by E.B. Morgan

Thanks

This is found in any number of Spitfire books including the 'bible' of Spitfire books, "Spitfire The History" by E.B. Morgan

~$150 
I was expecting this book to be around $50.

[Guppy35]

Just gotta know where to look.  About 40 bucks for a used one.  It's huge, so that's not bad at all

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Morgan&sts=t&tn=Spitfire-+The+History&x=41&y=17