reduce ho wish

[SlapShot]

As far as I'm concerned a HO when the guns of both aircraft are pointed at each other and at least one is firing. If one of the planes does not have a shoot on the other it is not a head on shoot. 

Exactly ... but there are many many people who don't subscribe to that and yell and scream HO on a front quarter deflection shot. If everybody truly understood that both have to have a guns solution at the same time, maybe the HO whining would not be quite as popular as it now.

[SlapShot]

lulu hit his head going to the bathroom in the middle of the night... 

That explains that ... (I did read that post)

[waystin2]

As far as I'm concerned a HO when the guns of both aircraft are pointed at each other and at least one is firing. If one of the planes does not have a shoot on the other it is not a head on shoot.  

Nice to see that you and Slapshot agree with my own definition of a HO.

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HTC has said that the level of detail you see at MAX ZOOM is comparable to the level of detail you can roughly see normally (without any zoom whatsoever). The zoom in-game is actually more limiting because it narrows your field of view significantly and you cannot track moving targets nearly as easily.

Also, reducing HOs is as easy as avoiding them, manuvering around them, or any other number of things. I don't agree with the "it takes 2" comment you find often on this forum, but I do believe you can seriously ruin somebody ELSE's HO with a basice manuver or two.

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Another thing ... most wouldn't know a HO if it ran them over. There are way too many people who piss and moan about a HO when they expose their front quarter at the merge and take a deflection shot.

If your merging with me, you had better not expose that front quarter shot. I will hit hard rudder and rake you from stem to stern as you pass by. If you think that is a HO ... meh.

and this, especially in the MA, maybe not in DA.

As far as I'm concerned a HO when the guns of both aircraft are pointed at each other and at least one is firing. If one of the planes does not have a shoot on the other it is not a head on shoot. 

not this.....HO takes two is wrong....."Head on"  singular...Think about this, you see a con he has a 2000 k advantage on you...he starts to dive on you break into him, but dont go nose on, he just flies straight at you firing, once he passes he gos up until he cant go up anymore, then he does the same exact thing.....he is not maneuvering to avoid your guns, and just because you maneuver to avoid his HO shot does not negate the fact that he is a HO tard 

[lulu]

Probably not HO only ...

A p38 turn back on me, same alt ...

I knew he wanted to get my spitty's wing or ho me. So before it was too late i put zoom on and
i start to aim 1.5k distance. I saw him start to fire but i was more lucky. So I had a confirmation:
some players use to play with zoom on all at maximum.

In general to understand better what i means, let try to fight with zoom on all at maximum.

If your joystick plays smooth, you are very dangerous.

I don't do this because I'm to lazy to set my joystick and because i like to see the panorama.

So my wish. If you fire, no zoom work else it works as usual.

If this can ruin the fun for somebody then by my self i vote -100, but don't tell me that
this play style is not as gaming the game.


 

[SlapShot]

not this.....HO takes two is wrong....."Head on"  singular...Think about this, you see a con he has a 2000 k advantage on you...he starts to dive on you break into him, but dont go nose on, he just flies straight at you firing, once he passes he gos up until he cant go up anymore, then he does the same exact thing.....he is not maneuvering to avoid your guns, and just because you maneuver to avoid his HO shot does not negate the fact that he is a HO tard 

I disagree Ink ... as fruitless and lame as this type of attack may seem to you, the "HO tard" is simply trying to land an extremely low percentage under the nose deflection shot, unless you have nosed up and you too have a guns solution on him at the same time ... not a HO in my book.

It does take two to enter into a "HO situation" ... it only takes one to make it a HO and that is the guy that fired first.

[SlapShot]

but don't tell me that
this play style is not as gaming the game.

OK ... it is not gaming the game.

I love nothing more than see some guy start firing at me from 1.5K out ... another pelt on the wall.

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I disagree Ink ... as fruitless and lame as this type of attack may seem to you, the "HO tard" is simply trying to land an extremely low percentage under the nose deflection shot, unless you have nosed up and you too have a guns solution on him at the same time ... not a HO in my book.

It does take two to enter into a "HO situation" ... it only takes one to make it a HO and that is the guy that fired first.

as far as that "situation" goes it was just a "for instance".....in any "situation" any time someone comes in firing,and does not maneuver to avoid your guns its a HO..the important part is "does not avoid YOUR guns" but comes in blazing away it is a "HO"  I used to think it took two to "HO" but it certainly does not. I highlighted your words to show you, you yourself agree with me

he comes in guns blazing with no maneuvering to avoid your guns HE is making a Head on pass...hence he is HOing you.

when I fight 99% of the time I am maneuvering to get a shot while denying a shot on me, thus avoiding HO attempts against me, now because I am avoiding the HO attempts the the nme is making, it does not render His HO attempts any less then what it is, A HEAD ON pass.

it seems very clear to me.....

[icepac]

Well....the opponent's guns do face forward.......

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Well....the opponent's guns do face forward.......

where the "right over the head smiley"?

[MachFly]

not this.....HO takes two is wrong....."Head on"  singular...Think about this, you see a con he has a 2000 k advantage on you...he starts to dive on you break into him, but dont go nose on, he just flies straight at you firing, once he passes he gos up until he cant go up anymore, then he does the same exact thing.....he is not maneuvering to avoid your guns, and just because you maneuver to avoid his HO shot does not negate the fact that he is a HO tard  

Guns on the fighters point forward, if the guns are not pointed at both aircraft than the airplanes are not going head on, therefore it's not a HO.

If I dive on someone and they pull up and stall out they are not pointed their guns at me, therefore it's perfectly safe to fire. Give me a single reason why I would not fire.

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Guns on the fighters point forward, if the guns are not pointed at both aircraft than the airplanes are not going head on, therefore it's not a HO.

If I dive on someone and they pull up and stall out they are not pointed their guns at me, therefore it's perfectly safe to fire. Give me a single reason why I would not fire.

take the shot, absolutely   if you dragged them up and they roped out, well then they are yours to kill

you gotta see what im talking about though, I personalty don't care how any one flies they can HO all they want, while they are HOing me im setting up the kill shot

HOing is good in some for instance...110 vs Zero....match ups like that, I would expect the guy with the huge guns to HO, and certainly would not think him less if I was in Zero

[MachFly]

take the shot, absolutely   if you dragged them up and they roped out, well then they are yours to kill

you gotta see what im talking about though, I personalty don't care how any one flies they can HO all they want, while they are HOing me im setting up the kill shot

HOing is good in some for instance...110 vs Zero....match ups like that, I would expect the guy with the huge guns to HO, and certainly would not think him less if I was in Zero

Agreed

[PJ_Godzilla]

HO's can be annoying, but you can dive out of the way to avoid them.

Badboy writes this very thing. I went around last night looking for a HO-Moe - couldn't find one. In any case, I usually try for, per Shaw, separation. The dumb thing I was doing was heading into an Immie right away to reverse. Badboy says something about that, too.

I'm going through BadBoy's stuff lately. He's got much useful to say. The really fun thing about this is where it takes me. I've been flying AH now since '09. I don't get a whole lot of time for it during the week but might get 4-6 hours for it on weekends. At times, I think I've learned all I can and that I can never be one of the monsters of the game. Then I realize I still have a lot more to learn.

Consider, for example, the energy-maneuverability diagrams. I'd seen those back in college, figured I knew 'em. Then, yesterday, it dawned on me what my 109's little lateral g gage might be for...

[dbh991]

HOing is good in some for instance...110 vs Zero....match ups like that, I would expect the guy with the huge guns to HO, and certainly would not think him less if I was in Zero

Exactly.  Each pilot should use the strong points of his crate while considering the weak points of the other guy's crate.  It's called realistic strategy and is not gaming the game. 

The turn and burn guys in their Brewsters are not chastised for using their crate's strengths (tight turning and ability to absorb hits) against a crate that doesn't turn as well or take hits as well.