The Me 410 jack of all trades

[Brooke]

In frame 3, the 410's (ZG26) got 17 kills (all bombers, I think) from 9 pilots.  That is quite good.

[ToeTag]

two guys who think the bar or stars under their name mean something other than we have been on the forums too long.  Play the game.

[Butcher]

In frame 3, the 410's (ZG26) got 17 kills (all bombers, I think) from 9 pilots.  That is quite good.

Me410 is designed a buff interceptor and does quite good just as the Ju-87 was a ground attack aircraft...... long as both have clear skies, they rule the battlefield.

[Brooke]

two guys who think the bar or stars under their name mean something other than we have been on the forums too long.  Play the game.

Not sure if this is directed at me, but I don't think the Me 410 is great except in its firepower.  My comments are for commending the ZG26 pilots for great work.

[moot]

Do you find the aircraft disappointing now that it's here Moot, or does your enthusiasm prevail?

Enthusiastic as far as really liking the plane despite it all, sure.. But not playing AH and only checked in here for first time in probably 1 year because someone told me Morpheus posted.  Most likely wont play again at least for the next ten years...  Too busy finishing school and other long term plans etc.

See ya on the flip side.

two guys who think the bar or stars under their name mean something other than we have been on the forums too long.  Play the game.

You know nothing about others true intentions.

[nrshida]

Good luck with your endeavours moot, take care 

[ToeTag]

Not sure if this is directed at me, but I don't think the Me 410 is great except in its firepower.  My comments are for commending the ZG26 pilots for great work.

nope not you  

All I am saying is you guys spend way to much time and emotions on this type of topic..that's just my opinion and I find it funny.

[ACE]

nope not you 

All I am saying is you guys spend way to much time and emotions on this type of topic..that's just my opinion and I find it funny.

I find your signature funny.  I find it really really funny when you say the things you say in this thread.

[Rob52240]

you two should go on Maury and let the audience decide.

[R 105]

 While I am no great pilot (frame rate way to slow) I did find the ME-410 a big disappointment. I don't think I ever been killed faster in any other plane in the game than the ME-410. However I do like it's big gun and I found I can hit a bomber at 1-K out with it's flat trajectory. It is almost to slow to catch bombers so you have to be at atl in the bomber stream to be effective and it take damage very poorly I by far prefer the ME-110.   

[Mister Fork]

Moot - I agree that in the MA the 410 isn't much of a threat.

HOWEVER.

In the AvA during historical match-ups, as a bomber inteceptor, JABO, or tank hunter, the 410 is a monster.  Intercepting bomber formations like B-17's or 24s with the big gun package, the 410 can and will pick off formations from 1000+ out.  Suprise attacks, a tactic often used by Hornese pilots during WWII is actually used quite a bit in the AvA. With the ability to hit 1k+ out, the 410 often makes confetti out of mid-war bombers, especially slower twin engines.

For ground targets, the 410 is a bit of a beast to handle at slow speeds, but the stability of its large gun package makes it even better than the B-25.  Same for JABO - drop your iron, strafe the crap out of the area, head home.  Of course, its no match against mid war allied fighters like the Spit 9 or D-11 Jug.  Furthermore, catching a 300+MPH twin-engine Hornet is a challenge in a mid-war fighter like the Spit 9, Jug D-11, or the P-38G.

Overall, in the AvA the Me-410 is a very popular choice for Luftwaffe pilots. Try to keep it in perspective for other arena use ...

[Karnak]

The problem is when it runs up against mid-war Allied fighters that don't have any trouble catching it.  Things like the Spitfire Mk VIII, P-38J, P-51B, Typhoon Mk Ib, Mosquito Mk VI and La-5FN.

Comparing it to older Allied fighters like the Spitfire Mk IX isn't really very fair to the Allied fighters.

[GScholz]

The Spit IX is a mid-war fighter. Production started in November 1942 and ended in December 1944. Deliveries of the Me 410 started in January 1943, only three months after the Spit IX.  The three P-38 groups in Europe didn't start converting to P-38Js until December 1943.

[Karnak]

The Spit IX is a mid-war fighter. Production started in November 1942 and ended in December 1944. Deliveries of the Me 410 started in January 1943, only three months after the Spit IX.  The three P-38 groups in Europe didn't start converting to P-38Js until December 1943.

Spitfire Mk IX entered combat in July, 1942 for the first time.  It is a mid-war aircraft, but on the very early end of it.

Also, keep in mind that the Spitfire Mk IX from mid-1942 was the Merlin 61 version we have in AH as the Spitfire Mk IX.  The one that finished production in 1944 was a Spitfire LF.Mk IXe, the same as the Spitfire Mk XVI in AH.

[GScholz]

Those were converted Spit Vs not production IXs. If that's your criteria then the 410 is a 1942 bird also, counting converted 210s.

FYI: January 1942 is still "mid-war"; at least on this side of the pond. Early-war: 1939-1941.