Bailing to avoid ?

[redwing7]

Maybe we should have a bail message if you bail from an undamaged plane, something like this;

"NoNads" has not so bravely bailed from undamaged Lancs"

 

[68ZooM]

to quote a very over used and lame line "it's there $15"  personally its stupid do bail to avoid death

[Karnak]

Is this some new strategy?

It is only new if we define "new" as anything originating after the release of AH 1.00.

Bomb and bail guys may be doing it for expediency. Never bombing, then bailing anyway is the one I don't understand 

No, the vast majority of them only bail when they are about to be intercepted.  They do it to avoid a death on their "score".  The easiest fix I can think of would be to make bailing out of an undamaged unit count as a death on scores.

I suspect there is a minority of them who don't care about score as much as depriving the other guy of some kills.

I despise people who bomb and bail.  There is no greater coward I despise in this game than someone who bombs and bails.

Gaming the game crowd has no greater coward than a bomb and bail tardlet.

This.

[W7LPNRICK]

I never bomb & bail. I have bailed before when I failed to inflict considerable damage or was in a hurry to re-up, and it was a long & pointless flight home. I have been discoed during a long dog-fight with a worthy opponent just as he fails to get the solution or is nearly in front of my guns DISCO! What? You gotta be sh-ting me? It NEVER happens when nothing is going on.      Ooops! not a hijack

[Zoney]

I've done it if I'm in a 152 or something and there's a horde of 10+ 400 behind me, no point trying to fight that.

How very sad.  Maybe the point would be to survive that, I would take that as a victory if it was me.  Maybe the point would be to just kill one guy before they finished you, I would certainly take that as a victory.  Maybe the point would be to steal their E and drag them to a position where your allies could kill them, I would take that as a victory even if none of the kills were mine.

The point IS trying to fight that.


When I played Warbirds I was a complete unapologetic dweeb who bailed to deny kills.  There is nothing I find more embarrassing then the way I used to play.  When I came over to Aces High I decided that all that dweebery would not follow me.  I have been here 15 months now and I have ZERO bails.  When and if I ever quit Aces High, I will have ZERO bails.

I sure like playing Aces High.

[grizz441]

Krup always fights it out.  The number of times I've seen him getting ganged and coming out alive is more than I can count.  I think we've all had frustrating moments where we find ourselves getting ganged, once again, on the deck and we simply just give up.  Even toon warriors like Krup have moments of weakness.  

[Krupinski]

Krup always fights it out.  The number of times I've seen him getting ganged and coming out alive is more than I can count.  I think we've all had frustrating moments where we find ourselves getting ganged, once again, on the deck and we simply just give up.  Even toon warriors like Krup have moments of weakness.  

What Grizz said, and of course in that situation if I have any kind of E I'll stay alive as long as I can, but with no E on the deck and missing parts? No chance.

I remember one time I was flying the 152 and I lost almost all my E in a 5v1 situation... Knowing my 152 could hang longer than the planes behind me I found a mountain at a 45 degree angle and followed it up... everyone of the cons behind me hit the mountain while I put my plane down as gently as I could when I reached stall speed.

Oh and Zony, I've never even heard of you, care to share some of your victorious 10+ engagements?

[grizz441]

What Grizz said, and of course in that situation if I have any kind of E I'll stay alive as long as I can, but with no E on the deck and missing parts? No chance.

I remember one time I was flying the 152 and I lost all my E in a 5v1 situation... Knowing my 152 could hang longer than the planes behind me I found a mountain at a 45 degree angle and followed it up... everyone of the cons behind me hit the mountain while I put my plane down as gently as I could when I reached stall speed.

Oh and Zony, I've never even heard of you, care to share some of your victorious 10+ engagements?

  Nice.

Survival doesn't happen often in those situations but when it does, it is oh so sweet and makes for beautiful film.

[Yeager]

I bail out when I have lost a complete wing or tail section, or when I am on fire.  I liken this to a realistic bail.

[RTHolmes]

I'll bail sometimes so the right guy gets my kill. eg. fight for a few mins 1v1 and take a coupla pings, then 4 other guys dive in to pick, evade, dive out then bail once the dweebs have burnt all their E

[Zoney]

Oh and Zony, I've never even heard of you, care to share some of your victorious 10+ engagements?

I apologize Krupinski.  It was not my intention to show you specifically in a bad light but rather to share my experience using your comment as a starting point.  It was the veteran players who never gave up trying to show me the error of my ways (especially Colmbo, who now plays AH) and I thought by sharing these experiences and the later embarrassment it caused might help someone else do what I and many in this community feel is right.

[MORAY37]

I remember one time I was flying the 152 and I lost almost all my E in a 5v1 situation... Knowing my 152 could hang longer than the planes behind me I found a mountain at a 45 degree angle and followed it up... everyone of the cons behind me hit the mountain while I put my plane down as gently as I could when I reached stall speed.

That is so cherry!!!

[icepac]

I applaud moving away from dweebery but I still keep every film of it.

[BERN1]

my first week some jerk bombed and bailed on me,I wont bail unless the aircraft is unflyable.
even then I consider if i am going to be captured or not. i will not allow them GD dirty Knit apes to put their paws on me!

[Crash Orange]

No, the vast majority of them only bail when they are about to be intercepted.  They do it to avoid a death on their "score".  The easiest fix I can think of would be to make bailing out of an undamaged unit count as a death on scores.

I suspect there is a minority of them who don't care about score as much as depriving the other guy of some kills.

A bail or capture already counts as a death on their score, at least as far as kills/deaths and damage/deaths are concerned. It makes a small difference for points.

I think most of them are doing it to deny the kill - especially the ones who bail before even dropping their bombs.

I'll bail sometimes so the right guy gets my kill.

I do that as well. Totally different behavior. The key here is "undamaged".