Author Topic: Anyone try the new msie?  (Read 1034 times)

Offline eagl

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6769
Anyone try the new msie?
« on: April 09, 2011, 02:26:58 PM »
Anyone try the new msie?  Google chrome can't be trusted to not cache passwords and stuff (no way to turn that stuff off or manage cache settings, etc) so I still use msie for stuff where security is important.  So don't bother trying to tell me to use another browser, msie works just fine and has settings so I can tell it to not cache secure pages, flush the cache on shutdown, not keep login credentials, etc., and that works fine.

So the question is, how is the new msie?  I've seen some incompatibility issues with some online forums so I'm holding off until I hear some positive reports.  Thanks in advance!
Everyone I know, goes away, in the end.

Offline 1Boner

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2285
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2011, 03:16:24 PM »
Been using it for a couple weeks now----not 1 single issue.

Its ALOT faster than the old one.

Enjoy.
"Life is just as deadly as it looks"  Richard Thompson

"So umm.... just to make sure I have this right.  What you are asking is for the bombers carrying bombs, to stop dropping bombs on the bombs, so the bombers can carry bombs to bomb things with?"  AKP

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2011, 05:04:24 PM »
I am a fan of LastPass for password management. Read up on it and see if it can do what you want:

http://lastpass.com/

Else: Im using MSIE now and no worries. Its a bit different but they certainly brought it up to date with the 'other' browsers.
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline TequilaChaser

  • AH Training Corps - Retired
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10173
      • The Damned - founded by Ptero in 1988
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 05:27:32 PM »
I am assuming ya'll are refering to MS IE 9 ???? 
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 05:34:43 PM »
I would say thats a fair assumption since he used the word 'new.'  :D
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline MrRiplEy[H]

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11633
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 04:20:11 AM »
Anyone try the new msie?  Google chrome can't be trusted to not cache passwords and stuff (no way to turn that stuff off or manage cache settings, etc) so I still use msie for stuff where security is important.  So don't bother trying to tell me to use another browser, msie works just fine and has settings so I can tell it to not cache secure pages, flush the cache on shutdown, not keep login credentials, etc., and that works fine.

So the question is, how is the new msie?  I've seen some incompatibility issues with some online forums so I'm holding off until I hear some positive reports.  Thanks in advance!


Heh you're worried about password cache and open yourself to activex and 0-day exploits galore? Mmkay. :)
Definiteness of purpose is the starting point of all achievement. –W. Clement Stone

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7271
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 11:32:51 AM »
A lot of people are complaining that the drop down portion of the address bar that shows addresses you have typed before is broken.

Offline eagl

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6769
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 11:34:05 AM »
Heh you're worried about password cache and open yourself to activex and 0-day exploits galore? Mmkay. :)

I can handle external threats.  I'm set up to deal with those.  My primary risk is someone walking away with my laptop, so passwords, encryption, and browsers not caching my bank logins are important to me.

I almost got caught with a click-through attack about a year ago when I was really tired, but that's the only time I've been seriously threatened by any of the gazillion msie exploits everyone worries about.  The only time my computer has been completely compromised in the last 8 years was the sony rootkit.  Every other attack I've had was either defeated trivially or was a problem only because I clicked on something I wouldn't have clicked on if I wasn't exhausted at the time.

The biggest actual threats I've faced were a burglary where the robbers had full access to my house and 3 computers (my desktop, my laptop, and my wife's laptop) for about 4 hours, and a recent incident where someone attempted to hijack a browser session shortly after I arrived in Iraq.  They apparently got one of my bank usernames but didn't get the password correct so all they did was lock my account.  So again, my biggest threats are people accessing my security information via physical access to my computer or from a badly behaved browser giving away the info by pre-filling in usernames and passwords to random web sites (what chrome seems to be doing).  MSIE simply doesn't DO that, and it has several security settings to explicitly prohibit caching of encrypted pages, delete browser cache on exit, etc.  Chrome doesn't have any settings at all like that except a setting that doesn't work that has something to do with not saving login info.  I've set that to off, but it still pre-fills some logins so I can't trust chrome with anything important.


Everyone I know, goes away, in the end.

Offline eagl

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6769
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 11:35:38 AM »
Been using it for a couple weeks now----not 1 single issue.

Its ALOT faster than the old one.

Enjoy.


Thanks for the straight answer.  I'll probably give it until the weekend after patch Tuesday and then install.
Everyone I know, goes away, in the end.

Offline 100Coogn

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 10:06:34 PM »
I've been using it for 2 weeks or longer.  No issues here. 

Windows Vista 32-Bit

Coogan
Quote
From Wiley: If you're hitting them after they drop, that's not defense, that is revenge.
Game Id's:
AHIII: Coogan
RDR2: Coogan_Bear
MSFS-2020: Coogan Bear

Offline MrRiplEy[H]

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11633
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 01:16:25 AM »
I can handle external threats.  I'm set up to deal with those.  My primary risk is someone walking away with my laptop, so passwords, encryption, and browsers not caching my bank logins are important to me.

I almost got caught with a click-through attack about a year ago when I was really tired, but that's the only time I've been seriously threatened by any of the gazillion msie exploits everyone worries about.  The only time my computer has been completely compromised in the last 8 years was the sony rootkit.  Every other attack I've had was either defeated trivially or was a problem only because I clicked on something I wouldn't have clicked on if I wasn't exhausted at the time.

The biggest actual threats I've faced were a burglary where the robbers had full access to my house and 3 computers (my desktop, my laptop, and my wife's laptop) for about 4 hours, and a recent incident where someone attempted to hijack a browser session shortly after I arrived in Iraq.  They apparently got one of my bank usernames but didn't get the password correct so all they did was lock my account.  So again, my biggest threats are people accessing my security information via physical access to my computer or from a badly behaved browser giving away the info by pre-filling in usernames and passwords to random web sites (what chrome seems to be doing).  MSIE simply doesn't DO that, and it has several security settings to explicitly prohibit caching of encrypted pages, delete browser cache on exit, etc.  Chrome doesn't have any settings at all like that except a setting that doesn't work that has something to do with not saving login info.  I've set that to off, but it still pre-fills some logins so I can't trust chrome with anything important.




Then what happened to your bitlocker? Why should you worry about stolen laptops and password caches when your Win7 enterprise obviously should have everything encrypted?
Definiteness of purpose is the starting point of all achievement. –W. Clement Stone

Offline Skuzzy

  • Support Member
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 31462
      • HiTech Creations Home Page
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 10:14:17 AM »
Heh you're worried about password cache and open yourself to activex and 0-day exploits galore? Mmkay. :)

You can disable ActiveX, or set it to prompt as well, or just stop the ones that are not signed and so on.  Anyone running any version of IE using the default security installation gets what they deserve.  Oh, by the way, the default security for IE is also the default for the entire computer.
Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
support@hitechcreations.com

Offline MrRiplEy[H]

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11633
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 02:35:04 PM »
You can disable ActiveX, or set it to prompt as well, or just stop the ones that are not signed and so on.  Anyone running any version of IE using the default security installation gets what they deserve.  Oh, by the way, the default security for IE is also the default for the entire computer.

One notable thing is also that leaving your IE security open will enable attackers to do cross browser attacks where they exploit activex through an another browser. So whether you use IE or not, it should be locked down.
Definiteness of purpose is the starting point of all achievement. –W. Clement Stone

Offline Skuzzy

  • Support Member
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 31462
      • HiTech Creations Home Page
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 02:48:27 PM »
One notable thing is also that leaving your IE security open will enable attackers to do cross browser attacks where they exploit activex through an another browser. So whether you use IE or not, it should be locked down.


Yep.
Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
support@hitechcreations.com

Offline MrRiplEy[H]

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11633
Re: Anyone try the new msie?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 03:03:48 PM »
I was actually under the impression that using the activex kill bit wasn't enough - you had to remove the whole libraries. I did a quick check but couldn't find evidence for that memory however.
Definiteness of purpose is the starting point of all achievement. –W. Clement Stone