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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2011, 08:50:43 PM »
Personally I hope that this thing works like he says it does, I think the problem most people are having with his research & results is that no one other then him knows exactly how the thing works, hopefully this will change after his patent is completed and he's able to share more about the device with his peers, but until that happens I think that the majority of people are going to be skeptical about what he's claiming can be done with it, history is fraught with people who have claimed to be able to do what he's claiming only to be found out to be frauds.
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2011, 04:25:53 AM »
I see this how I would see a movie that involves magic from some unused part of the brain.
It's impossible, most people would agree. That doesn't mean there is no possible way that
it can happen. I'm not saying I believe in magic or something, I'm just comparing the ideas.
Some people believe magic is truly possible, and they tend to be outcasts.

Just my thought on the matter. It appears to me the same concept. Just thinkin it would be
really, really cool to snap my fingers and have a fireball at my hand  :D

A very interesting observation. Consider this, how would a man from 3000 BC percieve you if you came to him at that time? Showed him a lighter with which to make fire, took for a ride in your off-road vehicle. Perhaps even take him up in a helicopter, and maybe something simple as fireworks. Tell me he wouldn't percieve this as magic, and worship you as a god.

All of these things are very ordinary to us today. It's all in what perspective you have, what level of knowledge you have. The things you mentioned can not be ruled out as impossible, after all we only use some ~12% of the brain. If you want to get really lost into psychedelic wonderland talk to a quantum physicist. He would tell you things like conciousness being the only thing that's real in this universe.

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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2011, 04:38:50 AM »
A very interesting observation. Consider this, how would a man from 3000 BC percieve you if you came to him at that time? Showed him a lighter with which to make fire, took for a ride in your off-road vehicle. Perhaps even take him up in a helicopter, and maybe something simple as fireworks. Tell me he wouldn't percieve this as magic, and worship you as a god.
Thats like the famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke that states "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

All of these things are very ordinary to us today. It's all in what perspective you have, what level of knowledge you have. The things you mentioned can not be ruled out as impossible, after all we only use some ~12% of the brain. If you want to get really lost into psychedelic wonderland talk to a quantum physicist. He would tell you things like conciousness being the only thing that's real in this universe.
That's actually not true about only using 12% of our brains, we do use our entire brains, there's not any part of it that's just sitting there not ever being used or ever accessed, it's just that were not using every part of the brain at the same time.  It's just one of those old wives tales that been repeated so many times people believe it to be true.
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2011, 06:54:48 AM »
You are confused as to what the term maverick means.

1) Darwin

2) Einstein

Two great mavericks, widely considered as mavericks by most people of their time.

yes I am! both of them were great scientists in the traditional sense, and Einstein was about as establishment as you can get.

neither of them proclaimed to the world in general (and specifically to investors) that they had something new and spectacular, but refused to explain how it worked or allow other scientists to examine and test it ...
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2011, 07:06:07 AM »
well perhaps I am confused as to what the term maverick means then   :eek:

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Definition of Maverick

1. independent person: an independent thinker who refuses to conform to the accepted views on a subject
2. unbranded animal: an unbranded animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother and herd. By convention, it can become the property of whoever finds it and brands it.
I was thinking number (1)

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A maverick personality is one where they are wilfully independent all the time and in all circumstances. They are keen to make their mark and do things their way and often blaze innovation and lateral thinking to the projects and problems that they are working on. They often exasperate the people around them and peers can feel that they can’t keep up or hurt if an objective comment from a maverick is delivered in their usual blunt and brutally honest way


Perhaps I have missunderstood the entire thread and original use of the word maverick in this thread.

By the definition I understood, both Darwin and Einstein were mavericks.



 
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2011, 07:29:48 AM »
hehe, I suspect we actually agree here. I'm just not sure what about :D
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2011, 07:36:50 AM »
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2011, 10:01:35 AM »
I though the whole purpose of a fusion reaction was a huge amount of heat energy that can be harvested.


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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2011, 11:19:48 AM »

That's actually not true about only using 12% of our brains, we do use our entire brains, there's not any part of it that's just sitting there not ever being used or ever accessed, it's just that were not using every part of the brain at the same time.  It's just one of those old wives tales that been repeated so many times people believe it to be true.


God, I'm so happy to see one person who understands this concept.  It's tiring to have to repeat the same thing over and over again, while some folks view it as "mysterious" and such, saying that there are "mystical untapped resources" in our heads.

We, in fact, use 100% of our brains (well, most people).  We just don't use it all at once.  Some tasks require a larger percentage, some smaller.  You never use 100% of your brain at one time for one task.  Much like your computer, if you did that a lot, you would not function well.
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2011, 11:34:07 AM »
hehe, I suspect we actually agree here. I'm just not sure what about :D

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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2011, 01:37:06 PM »
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« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2011, 01:54:23 PM »
How do you drink and pull a bow at the same time?

Very carefully, lest you spill the drink.
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« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2011, 02:14:40 PM »
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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2011, 08:09:33 PM »
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Is this an absolute truth or just a probable truth?

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Re: Science - Cold Fusion is it possible?
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2011, 05:32:40 AM »
7500.. hijack! :lol

The question isn´t perhaps so much "does this odd technology work or doesn´t it?" I for one do not consider it impossible, but by saying that I´m not sayin it works either. This is a question of attitude. We must always strive to keep our minds open, and realise that they are not. As soon as a mind considers itself open, it has been closed.  We really need to start doing some ground breaking research. We are in a bad place at the moment and we need to turn things around. What is the main factor? Scarcity. Scarcity creates inequality. This means untold wealth for some, ditto poverty for others. We live in a scarcity driven economy. Without scarcity it is impossible to charge someone for a commodity. What is our most scarce resource? Energy. Why? With energy you can do anything. Our entire economy runs on energy. Colonising Mars is just a question of energy.  Forget the gold standard, enter the energy standard. What would it take to eradicate scarcity? Abundant energy. Why have we not got abundance (few do, most do not)? Scarcity is profitable. To maintain profits scarcity needs to be maintained. How do we free ouselves from this ball and chain? Not by coming up with new gadgets or ways to kill eachother.

So, as a species and civilisation, how far have we come? Not that far. How many scientific discoveries were there to be made at the beginning of time? An infinate amount. How many have we made? A finite amount. The difference between infinity and a finite number is infinity, so we have a long way to go. Is anything and everything possible? Yes. Get on it.
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