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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2011, 07:03:00 PM »
Sometimes I wonder if people post simply the most factually incorrect information they can think of, as if it's some part of some game or something.


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You can find many, many more without really trying. It seems to have been just as common as taking off with the canopy shut.

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oops, he missed the wire:




Until there were reliable ejection seats, and air conditioning, being able to get out quick was a priority.


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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »
Like i said just practice a simple trick... "crabbing" apply slight rudder to one direction and look to the side this gives you a good view of the runway and is really simple. Right before landing flick the tail back in place and touchdown. IRL this is a commonly practiced technique and  is a simple skill all small aircraft pilots need to (or at least should) know.
This is also applied when taking off with a slight crosswind to keep the wind flowing over the wings better.  :old:

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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2011, 09:46:51 PM »
Just do what I do.  Use the same trick that British and Amercian pilots did when landing the Corsair on a carrier.  Come in on a gentle turning approach so you can see the runway until the last minute then you are wheels down.  May take some pracitce but it keeps me from flipping, crashing, or bouncing like rock on water down the runway.

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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2011, 12:03:40 AM »
All of you intelligent folk have to forgive me... I should have added during times of war, or if you are not a country with a massive amount of resources. Small countries that pay good money importing aviation fuel...

Who can show a photo not from an air show or some Navy photos of "air manuevers" ?  

The bottom line is America and the British have plenty of fuel so as not to really care about drag effects. During wartime a carrier/base only has so much fuel on hand... A pilot, during wartime is usually not trying to waste his gas either.

Think about kids...... Let your common sense take hold.
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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2011, 03:35:09 AM »
All of you intelligent folk have to forgive me... I should have added during times of war, or if you are not a country with a massive amount of resources. Small countries that pay good money importing aviation fuel...

Who can show a photo not from an air show or some Navy photos of "air manuevers" ?  

The bottom line is America and the British have plenty of fuel so as not to really care about drag effects. During wartime a carrier/base only has so much fuel on hand... A pilot, during wartime is usually not trying to waste his gas either.

Think about kids...... Let your common sense take hold.
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The amount of drag is creates is insignificant compared to the amount of visibility you get.

And I believe Motherland and Wrongway posted pictures not from airshows, unless airshows are on aircraft carriers these days. 
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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2011, 03:37:35 AM »
Like i said just practice a simple trick... "crabbing" apply slight rudder to one direction and look to the side this gives you a good view of the runway and is really simple. Right before landing flick the tail back in place and touchdown. IRL this is a commonly practiced technique and  is a simple skill all small aircraft pilots need to (or at least should) know.
This is also applied when taking off with a slight crosswind to keep the wind flowing over the wings better.  :old:


It's a common thing in real life because we have crosswind, there is no wind in AH. As crabbing significantly slows you down and increases the rate of decent you have to plan a different approach (which is not normal) or add power (which is not normal either).
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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2011, 04:25:31 AM »
this thread is 6 years old why not resurrect one from last year, there were plenty of them, lol.

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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2011, 04:57:33 AM »
this thread is 6 years old why not resurrect one from last year, there were plenty of them, lol.

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Did not see that  :rofl
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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2011, 06:39:49 AM »
Air maneuvers, daily operations, BonBon's, JuJu Fruits, etc ......... You might call that training kiddo.   :aok

The amount of drag is creates is insignificant compared to the amount of visibility you get.

And I believe Motherland and Wrongway posted pictures not from airshows, unless airshows are on aircraft carriers these days.  

And when you say visibility, what exactly do you mean?  That pilots throw their heads out the window to poke around?  Yes, but only in certain conditions.  Even a present day plane with a slow stall speed is going faster than most travel in their car.  A fly in the eye would be a terrible thing.   :uhoh  Environment has alot to do with such things.

Although I will say that present day commercial, single/twin engine aircraft are quite better for visibility than fighter planes of old.  
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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2011, 07:50:58 AM »
Air maneuvers, daily operations, BonBon's, JuJu Fruits, etc ......... You might call that training kiddo.   :aok

And when you say visibility, what exactly do you mean?  That pilots throw their heads out the window to poke around?  Yes, but only in certain conditions.  Even a present day plane with a slow stall speed is going faster than most travel in their car.  A fly in the eye would be a terrible thing.   :uhoh  Environment has alot to do with such things.

Although I will say that present day commercial, single/twin engine aircraft are quite better for visibility than fighter planes of old.  

Well you don't stick the whole head out but you do move it out to look around your engine.

You don't need to do it on modern planes because you either don't have an engine in the front at all or it's a lot smaller and they have a tricycle landing gear. But the all around visibility on modern civilian aircraft is a lot worse.

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Re: open cockpits
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2011, 08:17:53 AM »
Who can show a photo not from an air show or some Navy photos of "air manuevers" ?  
hehehe...sure thing bud...vintage video of zekes...watch the canopy positions on take off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFfu8K0320A

p-47s...some pilots took off canopy open, some didn't...gotta watch closely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shsxuauQA3w

i can get more if you want...
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