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Offline colmbo

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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #105 on: April 30, 2011, 10:31:15 AM »


Personally, I would much rather have an electric starter, especially if I go with the 0-540  :D

If you hand prop an O-540  you are the man!!


I flew a guys J-3.  No electrical system so it was always handpropped.  He had it down to a science.  He'd stand behind the prop on the right at the door.  Reach up with one hand a give a little flip and Putta Putta Putta it would be idling.  If something went wrong he was behind it so he wouldn't get run over and could just reach in and drag the throttle back or turn the mags off.

A friend has a 180 and first flight each day he hand-props the airplane.  He too has it done so it's easy to do -- and he leaves the fuel off just in case -- it will idle long enough to walk around the turn the fuel back on.  His reason for hand-propping is that he flies into the bush a lot, he wants to know that he can handprop if there is a battery issue somewhere remote.  If he can't he knows he has an issue that he might want to fix before launching off into the wilds of Alaska.
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #106 on: April 30, 2011, 10:52:44 AM »
If you hand prop an O-540  you are the man!!


I flew a guys J-3.  No electrical system so it was always handpropped.  He had it down to a science.  He'd stand behind the prop on the right at the door.  Reach up with one hand a give a little flip and Putta Putta Putta it would be idling.  If something went wrong he was behind it so he wouldn't get run over and could just reach in and drag the throttle back or turn the mags off.

A friend has a 180 and first flight each day he hand-props the airplane.  He too has it done so it's easy to do -- and he leaves the fuel off just in case -- it will idle long enough to walk around the turn the fuel back on.  His reason for hand-propping is that he flies into the bush a lot, he wants to know that he can handprop if there is a battery issue somewhere remote.  If he can't he knows he has an issue that he might want to fix before launching off into the wilds of Alaska.

Thankfully, it will be a few years before I have to make that decision.

The range of HP I can use is between 150-260. 

The only advantage I would really gain from the higher HP engines is an increase in climb speed as the VnE is 175 mph.

I would have to weight that advantages of fuel consumption over higher horses.  I would also like to have the ability to hand prop for the same reasons as your friend. Although there is not nearly as much back-country here in Pennsylvania, this is essentially a STOL bush plane made to carry cargo and I would like to do some travelling to non-typical places with it.  I am still considering putting amphibious floats on it or, at the very least, putting the mounts on the frame when I build it in case I choose to do it later.

It's the same reason that I like a vehicle with a manual transmission.  :D
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #107 on: April 30, 2011, 11:34:43 AM »
My first flying memory was sitting in the cockpit of my dad's luscombe coupe with my feet on the brakes and him telling me to "pull this lever out until it stops once the engine starts".

Scary for a 5 year old but I was alreadly helping him work on cars.

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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #108 on: April 30, 2011, 11:52:56 AM »
I was being sarcastic. I don't ever intend on hand-propping an airplane if I can help it.
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #109 on: April 30, 2011, 12:30:40 PM »
I am still considering putting amphibious floats on it or, at the very least, putting the mounts on the frame when I build it in case I choose to do it later.




If you do the floats use the 540.  I have yet to see an overpowered float plane.
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #110 on: April 30, 2011, 01:43:20 PM »

If you do the floats use the 540.  I have yet to see an overpowered float plane.

There is a guy in Alaska named Dan Shilling that is using a Subaru.

The PSRU's scare me, though.  Something else to go wrong.  I'd love to try a Heinkel, but would still need a gearbox...
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #111 on: April 30, 2011, 03:29:34 PM »
There is a guy in Alaska named Dan Shilling that is using a Subaru.



That name sounds familiar.  Is he in the Anchorage area?

Ya know, I should go out and take some photos of some of the modified airplanes here in Alaska...it's amazing what some of these guys do with airplanes.
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #112 on: April 30, 2011, 03:49:37 PM »
That name sounds familiar.  Is he in the Anchorage area?

Ya know, I should go out and take some photos of some of the modified airplanes here in Alaska...it's amazing what some of these guys do with airplanes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mNd71Bk3I
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #113 on: May 17, 2011, 05:15:21 PM »
Either the end of this week or next we are tearing out the old radios and installing a Garmin 530W and a kx155.
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #114 on: May 17, 2011, 10:56:14 PM »
Either the end of this week or next we are tearing out the old radios and installing a Garmin 530W and a kx155.

What did it have before?
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #115 on: May 17, 2011, 11:10:02 PM »
Either the end of this week or next we are tearing out the old radios and installing a Garmin 530W and a kx155.

Now do a good job and take ALL of the old wiring harnesses out as well.

I took just under 8 pounds (that's 1 1/4 gallons of fuel) of unused wiring out of my airplane  (that weight includes the King Marine Loran that was in the airplane -- several useful features such as "anchor watch")
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #116 on: May 18, 2011, 04:44:24 AM »
Now do a good job and take ALL of the old wiring harnesses out as well.

I took just under 8 pounds (that's 1 1/4 gallons of fuel) of unused wiring out of my airplane  (that weight includes the King Marine Loran that was in the airplane -- several useful features such as "anchor watch")

With a max weight of 2500 lbs, I think I'll just toss a spare engine in the back.

Just in case...  :devil
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #117 on: May 18, 2011, 11:32:48 AM »
What did it have before?

I don't even know. Some old bendix/king radios. We are keeping the Ki203 and the radio it is attached to, but all the others are going.


I know one of the Nav radios is a Kns81, which is really neat, except only half of the features on it work
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #118 on: May 18, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »
I don't even know. Some old bendix/king radios. We are keeping the Ki203 and the radio it is attached to, but all the others are going.


I know one of the Nav radios is a Kns81, which is really neat, except only half of the features on it work

Roger

Well have fun with the G530. Will it have an integrated TIS?
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Re: Owning an airplane
« Reply #119 on: May 18, 2011, 12:25:03 PM »
Roger

Well have fun with the G530. Will it have an integrated TIS?

Maybe down the road, but not immediately. I don't have a garmin transponder, which you need for TIS.
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