i think ford finally topped everyone

[CAP1]

for stupidity that is.

 i just finished replacing the pcv elbow that they;ve graciously placed underneath the lower intake manifold(3.0L DOHC). you know,....the same elbow that's almost ALWAYS been a problem on their pcv systems for at least the last 10 years? 'cept now, it takes about 2.5 hours to replace it, about $120 or so worth of new gaskets, and some skinned knuckles.

 as i was reassembling the intakes, plugging in the sensors, reconnecting the egr, etc., i noticed that it looked to have 2 power steering fluid reservoirs.
 i was wrong. i have now seen stupid(in my opinion anyway) that i truly believe will be nearly impossible to top.


 ladies and gentlemen..........i present to you........

 The 2001 Lincoln LS.

 it has fan fluid. 

[Devil 505]

Got you beat Cap.

2011 Silverado 2500/3500 HD Duramax diesel. Has a resovoir for "Emmision reduction fluid". This is injected into the exhaust stream post catalyst to capture particulates.

Thats right, myth has become reality.

Muffler Fluid 

[Jayhawk]

it has fan fluid. 

What does it do?

[icepac]

Toyota camry does as well..........it has a hydraulic fan.

How about taking the heads off a terminator mustang............in the car...with arp head studs on the engine.

I could tell some horror stories like having to replace every valve spring in the lexus rear drive V6 cars and getting paid 6 hours to do it.........and having to do hundreds over the period of a year.

The lexus V6 is a dead ringer for the ford mod motor and taking it apart was exactly like taking apart the ford GT I work on.

[CAP1]

Got you beat Cap.

2011 Silverado 2500/3500 HD Duramax diesel. Has a resovoir for "Emmision reduction fluid". This is injected into the exhaust stream post catalyst to capture particulates.

Thats right, myth has become reality.

Muffler Fluid 

holy cartoon engineering batman!!!

maybe the ford engineer that designed the fluid driven fan defected, and went to work for gm?

[CAP1]

What does it do?

it drives the engine cooling fan.

i'll snap a picture of it tomorrow.

[Jayhawk]

it drives the engine cooling fan.

i'll snap a picture of it tomorrow.

Gotcha, that's what I figured.  Any clue why?

[BrownBaron]

Any clue why?

Nope, and neither did the engineer, methinks. 

[ElGuapo1]

Frees up HP due to less belt drag?

[Devil 505]

Frees up HP due to less belt drag?

Most vehicles today use electric fans, not belt driven.

[icepac]

[Masherbrum]

for stupidity that is.

 i just finished replacing the pcv elbow that they;ve graciously placed underneath the lower intake manifold(3.0L DOHC). you know,....the same elbow that's almost ALWAYS been a problem on their pcv systems for at least the last 10 years? 'cept now, it takes about 2.5 hours to replace it, about $120 or so worth of new gaskets, and some skinned knuckles.

 as i was reassembling the intakes, plugging in the sensors, reconnecting the egr, etc., i noticed that it looked to have 2 power steering fluid reservoirs.
 i was wrong. i have now seen stupid(in my opinion anyway) that i truly believe will be nearly impossible to top.


 ladies and gentlemen..........i present to you........

 The 2001 Lincoln LS.

it has fan fluid.  

The LS was Ford's attempt at combining "Jag and Lincoln" (the flags had to be waving at the first meeting).    Both the LS and S-Type were failures on the drawing board, but were still "put forth" by Trotman and solidified Nasser.  The DEW98 platform was a POS and is still in use by the Jaguar.      Thank God they did not follow through with using the platform for the Zephyr/Milan/Fusion as originally intended.    

On top of a crappy chassis, the LS suffered horrible Electrical Issues amongst the (waiting for CAP) 5R55N "SelectShift" garbage transmission.   This transmission was a stop gap to try and "ensure 2nd gear starts" to meet EPA guidelines IIRC until '03.    The other 5R55's are better in terms of reliability, but the 5R55N rivals the C6 as the biggest POS Transmission Ford ever offered a consumer.

[Dichotomy]

Quit picking on the enginerds.  Blame the designers that don't have to stake their reputations or professional liability on a dumb design.  It may 'work' and meet all the codes.  That doesn't make it a good idea. 

Exhibit A.  The cupholders in a 2000 Mustang 5 speed.  Way to go with the placement boys. 

[Masherbrum]

Quit picking on the enginerds.  Blame the designers that don't have to stake their reputations or professional liability on a dumb design.  It may 'work' and meet all the codes.  That doesn't make it a good idea.  

Exhibit A.  The cupholders in a 2000 Mustang 5 speed.  Way to go with the placement boys.  

I had a 96 F-150 w/ 5.0L and a 5 speed with no cup holders worthwhile.   I had no problems Shifting, Changing a CD and crotching a drink at 70mph+.      Although, If I'm not mistaken, you're referring to the "Front Spot" nearest the shifter.        Furthermore, IIRC the 2002 console is a common "swap".  

[CAP1]

Gotcha, that's what I figured.  Any clue why?

i would venture a guess that the old style viscous clutch fans, and the ecu controlled electric fans that've worked so well for over 25 to 50 years just weren't good enough.   

 seriously, i don't know why they did it this way, but i plan to look into it, 'cause i am curious.