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Offline Dragon Tamer

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Glass gauges compromise
« on: April 25, 2011, 09:41:59 AM »
I know this topic has been discussed several times and it never seems to make any ground but I'm going to discuss it again.  I think that glass gauges should be allowed in AH.  I personally don't see what tactical advantage comes out of having them.  For people making simpits it just adds an extra level of realism that if you experience, will have you addicted the first time.

To give the GG topic a fighting chance, I propose a compromise.  Allow glass gauges but with a short coming of not displaying the true fuel, true airspeed etc.  This should level the playing field a little bit.
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 09:47:45 AM »
Do you mean a glass panel, such as a Dynon or otherwise?

If so... (I'll wait for Waystin's big photo soon)

Nope  :aok

Why not laser sighting next?

Learn to use your six pack.  Like a real pilot.

It add absolutely NO extra levels of realism to look at the cockpit of a warbird to see a spanking brand new Dynon SkyView or something similar.

It would, in fact, make it even less realistic.
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 10:20:10 AM »
Quote from: Dragon Tamer on April 25, 2011, 09:41:59 AM
I know this topic has been discussed several times and it never seems to make any ground but I'm going to discuss it again.  I think that glass gauges should be allowed in AH.  I personally don't see what tactical advantage comes out of having them.  For people making simpits it just adds an extra level of realism that if you experience, will have you addicted the first time.

To give the GG topic a fighting chance, I propose a compromise.  Allow glass gauges but with a short coming of not displaying the true fuel, true airspeed etc.  This should level the playing field a little bit.

The issue isn't about the relative advantage of looking at a second monitor for your gauges as opposed to pushing a button to glance at your gauges. Pushing a button is usually faster. Aces High isn't coded to support putting the gauges on a second monitor.

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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 10:28:49 AM »
Is he asking for glass cockpits?  Or just some different gauges?   Blank gauges/instrument panels?
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 11:14:32 AM »
So you want this in a WWII plane??



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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 12:02:49 PM »
wow you guys are trying really hard to not understand the OP ...


ok I'll make it easier for you. some of these:

http://www.simkits.com/products.php?groupid=54

or for those with smaller budgets these:

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/fip.html

and an API to support them.


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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 12:06:03 PM »
I still don't get it.  Glass gauges?
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 12:06:58 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on April 25, 2011, 12:02:49 PM
ok I'll make it easier for you. some of these:

http://www.simkits.com/products.php?groupid=54

and an API to support them.

I see nothing wrong with having those. But those are not glass, those are steam gauges for sims (even those they have glass on them). By reading the OP I was sure he wanted a glass cockpit.

I guess we'll just wait for Dragon to come and clarify.
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 12:34:33 PM »
It doesnt matter if he is talking about a glass panel or the generic instruments, it's the same result.  I dont see a problem with it except for the required coding. It wont provide anyone with a huge advantage in game. And what's it to you if it is "less realistic" for him?
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 12:37:48 PM »
Quote from: MachFly on April 25, 2011, 12:06:58 PM
I see nothing wrong with having those. But those are not glass, those are steam gauges for sims (even those they have glass on them). By reading the OP I was sure he wanted a glass cockpit.

I guess we'll just wait for Dragon to come and clarify.

Exactly what I thought, you just beat me to it.  You are correct, those are steam gauges.

This is a glass gauge.  The FAA would agree with me...




Perhaps it was the OP that is incorrect in his wish and misunderstood what glass gauges means.

I guess we WILL have to just wait...
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 12:45:44 PM »
Quote from: muzik on April 25, 2011, 12:34:33 PM
It doesnt matter if he is talking about a glass panel or the generic instruments, it's the same result.  I dont see a problem with it except for the required coding. It wont provide anyone with a huge advantage in game. And what's it to you if it is "less realistic" for him?

So there is no advantage to having the regular "six pack" replaced by a glass cockpit?

Even if one flies different planes?

Even if planes from different countries have gauges in different spots, in different languages, with different readings?

Having a glass cockpit where all the flight data is in the same place, in the same language, in every plane is not an advantage?

Even if it is a small advantage, that is not really important to me.

Neither is someone else's sense of "realism", to be honest.

What WOULD chap my bellybutton however, would be any part of my subscription being wasted on something completely unnecessary to improve the game, especially if it did not exist on the a/c that are modeled in the game.
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 12:48:50 PM »
Glass gauges means something different in the context of sims than it does in real aviation with a glass cockpit... anything that's not on the screen is considered a 'glass gauge' including replica analog equipment...
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 01:10:14 PM »
I was referring to the 4th monitor that would display the instrument panel of what ever plane you were flying.  But those USB instruments looked really nice, I think I might get some of them.
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 01:16:15 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on April 25, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
Glass gauges means something different in the context of sims than it does in real aviation with a glass cockpit... anything that's not on the screen is considered a 'glass gauge' including replica analog equipment...

Indeed, I did not know this.
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Re: Glass gauges compromise
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 01:31:08 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on April 25, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
Glass gauges means something different in the context of sims than it does in real aviation with a glass cockpit... anything that's not on the screen is considered a 'glass gauge' including replica analog equipment...

Did not know that.
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