So How About No F3 in the Il-2!?!?!?

[Lusche]

I don't buy that. I've landed enough perfect hits with the Hurr2D to realize the guns suck even when you have the perfect angle, the perfect spot, you see the fireballs, and you get no result.

If you have "perfect" angle angle and spot, the tank will go boom. No exception. The Il-2 with the 37mm is superior, but there is no tank in game that can withstand the Vickers S gun. The challenge is just to get that "perfect hit" with the slow ROF and limited ammo.

[SmokinLoon]

Next time you take up an Il-2, Krusty, burn off all but 30 rounds of 37mm then engage enemy tanks, see how may tank kills you get.   

[Krusty]

Interesting point. Worth revisiting at least offline against the GV drones on my part.

[Lusche]

Just for entertainment: My very first try ever in a Hurri D vs the new Panther, offline. http://www.mediafire.com/file/q696vyxdpvu7a7t/film437%20killing%20a%20panther.ahf  (177K).
Obviously the tank didn't know my guns were utter crap

[SmokinLoon]

I say again... and Loooshy has the video to back me up...

Shot placement is key. 

[Krusty]

Hey now, I'm not exactly a bad shot. When I say I unloaded an entire clip from a hurr2d into a single panzer, I mean I got what looked like kill/disable shots almost every time I made a run. I'm not talking hitting the corners or the treads or the front plate, I mean rear engine deck and/or straight down into the thin upper turret armor.

He kept plugging away, firing at other GVs. I hit him at least 12 times (double shots every time) out of 15 total. When a GV finished him off I got the kill. I know I hit because of that.

So I'm not just saying this because I can't hit. I can discipline myself to make a good run, fire, and pull up. I've got that much skill, at least.

[STEELE]

I'm not sure if you've seen this before, a demonstration of the Vickers' hitting power:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5xN8hlGLo