Re-2005,Yak-3,G-55 fiat,Bf-109 G-10, fighters to have

[DemonFox]

PBY-5A   

[alpini13]

and yes another ack ack fine post,i did some research for you ack ack. i have to tell you the FW200 did serve in the armed forces in ww 2,it carry bombs,it also dropped those bombs in combat.and the germans themselves labeled it as an anti-shipping BOMBER.....if we ever get a mostly sea map with ports and small island bases, convoys,Q-ships,sea planes and flying boats would be freaky fun!!!  fw-200 would fit right in.as we dont have any of those planes,map,or extra ships right now,the next best thing is to work with what we do have,and the re-2005,g-55,yak-3,109g-10 would be great...if i wanted to stretch that list a little i would ask for 2 japanese planes as well....the j2m3 fighter and the twin engined attack a/c......the emily would have to wait.

[DemonFox]

Well my argument will lay in the fact your all asking for the same type of plane we have many of... Medium land based bombers!
We need some thing NEW that isn't like other things... PBY-5A it's different, important, and made in LARGE quantities. It even server in almost all allied forces. 

<S> I just want a fresh plane not something to blend into the crowd

[Krusty]

The PBY5a is no more important than the SBC-4 is.





(Read: It's not very)

[DemonFox]

Oh really Krusty? You want to tell that to the THOUSANDS of people saved by them? Or how about the Black Cats? That's a fairly famous squadron. What a famous SBC-4 squadron? What did they accomplish?

[AWwrgwy]

Oh really Krusty? You want to tell that to the THOUSANDS of people saved by them? Or how about the Black Cats? That's a fairly famous squadron. What a famous SBC-4 squadron? What did they accomplish?

I believe that was his point.


wrongway

[Ack-Ack]

and yes another ack ack fine post,i did some research for you ack ack. i have to tell you the FW200 did serve in the armed forces in ww 2,it carry bombs,it also dropped those bombs in combat.and the germans themselves labeled it as an anti-shipping BOMBER.....if we ever get a mostly sea map with ports and small island bases, convoys,Q-ships,sea planes and flying boats would be freaky fun!!!  fw-200 would fit right in.as we dont have any of those planes,map,or extra ships right now,the next best thing is to work with what we do have,and the re-2005,g-55,yak-3,109g-10 would be great...if i wanted to stretch that list a little i would ask for 2 japanese planes as well....the j2m3 fighter and the twin engined attack a/c......the emily would have to wait.

The point wasn't whether or not the FW 200 saw combat, it clearly did as a long range recce, anti-maritime (anti-shipping), patrol and VIP transport.  However, it was not superior to the Ju 88 in any fashion other than being able to fly longer ranges.   The FW 200 carried far less of a bombload than the Ju 88, wasn't as fast nor as versatile as a bomber and the Ju 88 was far better suited in the anti-shipping role than the Condor.  Somewhere around mid-1941, the Condor crews were instructed not to attack shipping and to avoid combat at all costs to preserve their limited numbers.  Once the Allied convoys started to increase the range of convoy CAPs and using escort carriers to help protect the convoys, the FW 200 was closer to extinction than the California Condor.

It would be a nice plane for scenarios but in any of the arenas it would be outclassed by existing bombers and would end up a true hanger queen.  It would be probably the only plane in the plane set that would only see use in scenarios.  It's one of those planes that would be nice to have eventually but there is no pressing need for it and it doesn't fill any of the missing gaps.

ack-ack

[alpini13]

  I gues ack ack is having a hard time staying on point, this wish is for several italian,russian and german fighter planes,NOT for the fw200.and having said that,thank you for your last reply stating that the fw200 was a bomber over the ocean,mainly for shipping and would be good in a sea map type setup due to its long range and similiar loadout to the ju-88.  thanks, but that will be in another wish,this is about new fighter planes

[skribetm]

 

[matt]

 

                           

[MK-84]

  I gues ack ack is having a hard time staying on point, this wish is for several italian,russian and german fighter planes,NOT for the fw200.and having said that,thank you for your last reply stating that the fw200 was a bomber over the ocean,mainly for shipping and would be good in a sea map type setup due to its long range and similiar loadout to the ju-88.  thanks, but that will be in another wish,this is about new fighter planes

ack ack was not having a hard time staying on topic.  He was correcting previous posts that YOU made because you did very little research into your request.

[alpini13]

lol mk.hows this for some research. most people look on the net and find a bunch of sources.i have been researching the re-2005 since 1998,when i had a chances to look at the italian national archeives in rome..no easy task as they are not on film or computer. not only that just about every year since 1998 i have talked to surviving ground personnel,pilots and even factory workers in italy about the experiences they had with the re-2005. i also located 1 part in the cave system on the island of ponza for the restoration of the only tailsection of an re2005 .i have also done various research on the german occupation the holding of benito mussolini and various other aspects of the island of ponza. ponza has many shipwrecks and part of the islands houses have sunk into the sea and you can dive to them.also 2 castles there and what is left of an underground acuaduct that worked for about 1000 yrs from roman time to mid 1950's  so i think i have a bit more info on this subject of the re-2005 than the average american with his internet connection,LOL

[STEELE]

Broil me alive if I'm wrong, but I thought one of these wished-for Italian birds share the same basic airframe as a c205?  (Which would mean easier to bring into AH)

Also, Karnak, about the G-10/K4 thing, what we really had was a bunch of pixels that made vroom vroom & piu piu sounds.    It performed like a G-10 would, some people (especially the new players that are Luft fans) would be tickled pink to have the 20mil option back on the only Luft bird capable of climbing with Spits (well, supposed to anyway) and catching up to LA-7's, Typhs, Runstangs, ect.
+1 to the OP

[PJ_Godzilla]

i also located 1 part in the cave system on the island of ponza for the restoration of the only tailsection of an re2005 .

ponza has many shipwrecks and part of the islands houses have sunk into the sea and you can dive to them.also 2 castles there and what is left of an underground acuaduct that worked for about 1000 yrs from roman time to mid 1950's  so i think i have a bit more info on this subject of the re-2005 than the average american with his internet connection,LOL

As for that tailsection, wasn't the Reggiane the one with the tearaway tail? I think I read somewhere that the empennage could fail on higher-g pullouts.

Otherwise, I know why that Island sunk - it was built on a Ponza scheme (har, har).

[alpini13]

LOL, hey thats a good one. the problem with the tail and vibration turned out to be a stupid mistake...it wasnt balanced properly(wrong weight), once it was balanced it could dive to  just over 600mph speed and still recover without breaking into very small bits with a scream of aaaaaahhhhhhhh!......ah..that would make it as good in a dive or better than a p-51.p-47 or fw 190....as for the  real tail section the part i found was a small simple fitting but only used on this plane.It was in a blocked off cave on ponza...no ponzi scheme,lol. i also recovered a german proofed cz-27 pistol in holster a beretta 38 submachingun,,,missing pieces.some documents,and misc items non military related although one is a russian wristwatch with gold case.