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Offline icepac

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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2011, 11:18:11 AM »
Its all part of the show boys all part of the show.

Pull your heads out of the posterior portion of your anatomy.

Ya they had enough explosives to completely destroy everything but the tail rotor section.

My BS meter is Pegged. The guy died of renal failure and they had him under surveillance, he croaks in the middles of the night and they say hey how can we use this to our advantage. Plus the timing is all wrong. Why now if the have had him under surveillance for eight months.

We need a BS animation.  


You're kidding me right?

If Bin Laden had died of renal failure, we certainly would have preferred he died of a cause that removed any chance of martyrdom.

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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2011, 11:43:37 AM »
looks to me like it broke it's tale off on the wall main body on one side tail on the other. Thermited the side they could get to and had to leave the rest.

This.  Landing on a wall will wreck your day, lucky they survived.

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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2011, 11:59:13 AM »
or it could've been left there on purpose to show the Pakistanis a lil' something to worry about.... next time up it could be your nuke silos that get SealTeamSix'd ;)

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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2011, 12:17:22 PM »
Kinda like with the F-117, eh?
just what i was going to say... along with the B2...
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2011, 12:25:18 PM »
but why would they try to land in that small compound?

I believe they were forced down, not that they were trying to land inside.  How I originally heard the story (just what I heard that night, no source handy) is that they were going to rappel into the compound but ran into problems and was forced down.
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2011, 05:46:09 PM »
Yeah know, that too me sounds very plausable. Ofcourse I believe in alot of conspiracies too. But do think you may be on to something there.

As far as animations go though, Most of mine would get me skuzzified if I posted them here. There out there though.



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pictures to everyone later to prove my death.  The autopsy could prove pretty conclusively if he was on dialysis
as the needles they use leave quite noticeable holes.

     If we didn't kill him and shoot his wife, I don't see why we wouldn't print photos to prove his demise.
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2011, 06:01:44 PM »
You need the steps to check that tail be fore and after flight and they retract into the tail pylon so how do they check that? they would need a stand.


A  stand you say? I dont think  we could  possibly  come  up with a system  that lets  us  make  inspections in areas  above  our heads...stlightly more stealthy  Helo or  a B-2 bomber? Sure! but  no way  a stand that  could replace the current  system to make  said inspections......Wait



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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2011, 02:59:35 AM »
I believe they were forced down, not that they were trying to land inside.  How I originally heard the story (just what I heard that night, no source handy) is that they were going to rappel into the compound but ran into problems and was forced down.

I understood they were going to fast rope on the roof and work down.. One helo lost power and was forced to land.. They then improvised w/ tnt thru the wall.

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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2011, 01:13:23 PM »
well... they announced that its just a mod to the blackhawks being operated by the special forces.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/05/06/356317/graphic-pakistan-raid-reveals-us-armys-helicopter-secret.html
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The operation that killed Osama bin Laden on 2 May inadvertently revealed a modification kit that reduces the radar profile of a small number of Sikorsky MH-60Ks operated by US special operations forces, according to sources familiar with the equipment.

A reduced-signature tail rotor shroud, low-observable treatments and faceted stabilators are visible in news photos of the helicopter that was destroyed at the scene.

The images led to speculation about the possible existence of an all-new stealth helicopter. But in reality, they reveal one of several mission-specific kits developed internally by the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, sources said.

The regiment is renowned for the flying skills of its helicopter pilots, but has also developed advanced engineering capabilities.

Set apart from the army's conventional acquisition and science and technology communities, the 160th has the ability to develop and certificate its own aircraft modifications and projects.

A standard MH-60K represents the most advanced configuration of the Black Hawk family within the regiment's fleet, with special survivability, navigation and radar systems allowing it to operate in "all environments and under the harshest conditions", the army said.

According to one source, the tail rotor is the most visible part of the MH-60K to radar and the sharply edged shroud revealed in the news photos helps to reduce the signature, especially from the frontal aspect. The kit also includes the installation of a stealthy windscreen and requires the removal of the MH-60K's refuelling probe, according to sources.

The bolt-on kits are not classified, but they have been kept secret within the special operations community for as long as two decades. Starting in the mid-1980s, the army began experimenting with stealth treatments for helicopters.

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In 1987, Bell OH-58s involved in Operation Prime Chance, which provided armed escorts for oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, received a kit with stealth treatments, which included a main rotor shroud.

The Sikorsky/Boeing RAH-66 Comanche, which was cancelled in 2004, was designed with stealth treatments from the beginning.

It is not clear how the special kit impacted the MH-60K's performance during the bin Laden raid. One of the two aircraft involved in the operation had to be destroyed on the ground. The helicopter's engine had reportedly lost thrust due to power settling as it hovered within the high walls of bin Laden's compound.

One source said the tail rotor shroud of the radar-evading kit improves the aerodynamic performance of the aircraft slightly, but another said the stealth features add weight and drag to the aircraft, perhaps making it more susceptible to power settling.
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2011, 02:22:37 PM »
OK then problem solved... oh and bud youll need a taller stand.
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2011, 09:33:27 PM »
Wouldn't that be funny if it was a big toy helo/uav just to  frak with pakistani's heads?:devil<joke>
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2011, 09:40:29 PM »
Considering a Nightstalker crashed it on landing...  :rolleyes:
so i wasnt the only one thinking this? :rofl
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2011, 07:06:05 AM »
Coulda been Flight Concepts....may have just said 160th.
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2011, 01:06:02 PM »
nothing to see here move along, it's just the industrial size S.A.P.P Blender.... move along now  :noid
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Re: Exposed Stealth Helo?
« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2011, 08:42:39 PM »
it wasnt very stealthy maybe they didnt see the camo wall 10ft high...