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Offline Debrody

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2011, 10:03:38 AM »
It would be a  great squad tool.

Spawn in with 10 or 15 of these at an undefended base,
barrage the town, and hopefully get a good fight going!

It'd be a blast to have in game, pun not intended!
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Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2011, 12:16:11 PM »
I'd like to see the vTARDs use the SdKfz 251 in horde form.... oh wait.... that would take a bit of skill and some actual tactics to use the 251's 28cm rockets.  :D

The best thing would be to get a fighter to go and de-ack the town first, then rush in with 6-10 251's with rockets and 3 gv supplies each.  I've done it paired with another 251, but between the 2 of us and all of our supps (18 rockets each), we didnt get the town down.  We got lots of buildings destroyed and were wasting away our MG ammo when a Lgay upped and sent us packing.  Those 28cm rockets are devistating, no doubt.  The learning curve is loarger than one may think. 

The Soviet trucks would be even more fragile than the 251 (even .3o caliber MG's would rip trucks apart) , and it would have no way of resupplying itself.  There is information showing an early way model with 16 rockets mounted on rails, and a late war variant with (up to) 48 rockets able to be fired in a single volley.

I vote "back burner" until the German SdKfz 251 and the 28cm rockets see more use.  I do like th idea though.   :aok     
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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2011, 12:45:02 PM »
It's a Russian made truck I believe  :old:

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2011, 12:54:21 PM »
I have thought about this before.  It would be neat if you had a scout jeep close to the town spotting.  Then a function would appear in the rocket equipped vehicles clip board  That new function would allow it to see it's shots on the map and also allow it to make corrections with mouse clicks on the map.  Kinda like using the main guns on the destroyer in land mode used to be.  Nothing super accurate but close enough to see results.
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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2011, 01:30:14 PM »
+1 to Da Boomz BoomZ :aok
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Re: Katyusha!
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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2011, 04:04:45 PM »
There's about 50 people, in game, that have the skills to figure out that kind of distance and trajectory.......   It would never happen.   :aok


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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2011, 09:47:18 PM »
  I'm all for this for just the sound effects alone and the jabo guys wouldn't mind at all since it'd
be an easy kill.
  Perhaps set it up so that a certain number of them need to be within specific distances of each
other in order to use 'em. ie: six sets / six GVers; similar in setup maybe to an artillery battery.....

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2011, 10:05:58 PM »
Yes!

The sound of the Katyusha rockets makes me want to poo myself and run the other direction...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0nIqZgnp60

Offline EskimoJoe

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2011, 01:21:02 AM »
Yes!

The sound of the Katyusha rockets makes me want to poo myself and run the other direction...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0nIqZgnp60

Curiously enough... The Nebelwerfer makes the same sound??
We may never know.

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2011, 02:39:00 AM »
Not that I know but I'm not sure if the camera crews of that era had a guy to record sounds with them, but the cameras did not have the ability to record sound.

Those sounds were likely added by a sound technician in later era and they could have even used the same general sound batch to do that.

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2011, 03:17:34 PM »
Good idea. They were used at Stalingrad with ledges. How strong is a rocket? Also how many rockets can they hold?   :aok

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2011, 01:34:00 PM »
There's about 50 people, in game, that have the skills to figure out that kind of distance and trajectory.......   It would never happen.   :aok

  I'm thinking that using a spotter plane would alleviate the problem of determining the range. Said spotter merely
calls "mark" when he's directly over the town. The ground vehicles then form up around the lead GV,
all pointing their snouts at the town, and presto, rocket barrage.
  I'd posted in the "Help" area of the BBS when I couldn't figure out how to fire the rockets on
the SdKfz 251. I got my answer along with this caveat, which I've not yet tried. If you select
to carry vehicle supplies on it, you can, per the post, rearm and fire another salvo. Hell, if that
does work, and it only takes a single vehicle supply to do that, one might be able to launch
-10- salvos per vehicle at a town...
  The more I think about this, the more I like it. Think of ten or twenty of these things, firing
rockets, reloading, firing again, and again , and...well, you get the idea. I need to
try this out.  :D

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2011, 01:43:13 PM »
  I'm thinking that using a spotter plane would alleviate the problem of determining the range. Said spotter merely
calls "mark" when he's directly over the town. The ground vehicles then form up around the lead GV,
all pointing their snouts at the town, and presto, rocket barrage.

We need "hopper" or "grashopper" planes.  :airplane:

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Re: Katyusha!
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2011, 04:34:06 PM »
  I'm thinking that using a spotter plane would alleviate the problem of determining the range. Said spotter merely
calls "mark" when he's directly over the town. The ground vehicles then form up around the lead GV,
all pointing their snouts at the town, and presto, rocket barrage.
  I'd posted in the "Help" area of the BBS when I couldn't figure out how to fire the rockets on
the SdKfz 251. I got my answer along with this caveat, which I've not yet tried. If you select
to carry vehicle supplies on it, you can, per the post, rearm and fire another salvo. Hell, if that
does work, and it only takes a single vehicle supply to do that, one might be able to launch
-10- salvos per vehicle at a town...
  The more I think about this, the more I like it. Think of ten or twenty of these things, firing
rockets, reloading, firing again, and again , and...well, you get the idea. I need to
try this out.  :D

I'm a bit of a math nerd, so please excuse my outburst of numbers.

Just knowing the range to the plane won't cut it- you'd also have to either evaluate this equation:

let x equal the range to target (unknown)
let a equal the measure of the angle formed by the ray drawn from the launcher to the plane and the ray drawn from the launcher to the target (known)
let d equal the range to the spotter plane (known)

x=d *cos (a)

or this one, if you know the altitude of the plane:

let x equal the range to target (unknown)
let a equal the measure of the segment formed between the plane and the target (known)
let d equal the range to the spotter plane (known)

x2=d2-a2

Then you'd have to account for the huge rounding errors incurred by the AH2 distance system, and the probable imperfection of the right triangle at hand.  However, if you've managed to coordinate the whole shenanigan and not get shot while doing it, then your talents would probably find better use elsewhere.

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