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Offline lutzmax

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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2011, 01:01:04 PM »
Gyrene has no clue as to how I feel about ENY.  He's just a schmuck desperately trying to believe he is better than other people somehow.  He also suffers from poor reading comprehension.  To his morally superior "mind" it is just plain wrong to pose a possible solution to an issue that creates many comments.  Personally, ENY is not an issue for me.  I just thought that I may have an idea that would improve gameplay for more people.  
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2011, 01:03:33 PM »
What was the argument against localized ENY?

Because mostly the players of the game operate in an unstructured manner (ie, they just go where the fight is, no real planning or coordination), this could help balance situations where one side is overwhelming another at one location on the map.
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2011, 01:07:49 PM »
HiTech:
I have no favorite rides and I have no ulterior motive.  It was you and the other posters who added your own interpretation of my motivations.  I just brought forth an idea.  What am I supposed to do about that?  I did thank Wrongway for his real comment.
You and the others who attack me for an idea only reveal your own bias.  I like ENY because I get to fly a Brewster without being accused of EZ mode.
I was just trying to help you deal with an issue that generates lot of grief for you.  I wanted to help your game.
I guess I struck a raw nerve.
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2011, 01:08:14 PM »
to really the countries then take away the points and perks.  If a country has so many players that their eny goes above a certain threshold then fine they can still fly whichever airplane/gv they want but it doesnt count towards score/perks.  that will avoid the bunch of people who switch countries just to get the "win" perks.

this is funny, I noticed that some of the people who are the big "supporters" of whatever people whine about, are themselves the biggest whiners on 200.

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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2011, 01:11:24 PM »
to really the countries then take away the points and perks.  If a country has so many players that their eny goes above a certain threshold then fine they can still fly whichever airplane/gv they want but it doesnt count towards score/perks.  that will avoid the bunch of people who switch countries just to get the "win" perks.


Isn't it ironic that switching to get "win" perks doesn't work at all?  ;)
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2011, 01:32:18 PM »

Isn't it ironic that switching to get "win" perks doesn't work at all?  ;)

then why did I get perks when I switched?

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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2011, 01:37:41 PM »
then why did I get perks when I switched?

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You get perks only if you have been in country for at least 12 hours. You see "perk points have been awarded" (or whatever the actual words are) in any case, because it's a system message for that country.

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At that time, the arena is reset, a different terrain is rotated in with the country territories randomly set, and a perk point bonus is awarded to players that have been in the winning country for a minimum of 12 hours prior to the end of the war. 
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2011, 01:46:46 PM »
Reducing points/perks for the dominant country is an interesting idea.

Also, I wonder why so few people, such as I, know that you get more perks/points when attacking a numerically superior country's forces? 
Perhaps it isn't being communicated well. 
Maybe a message that pops up mentioning that fact at the appropriate time would be helpful in refocusing behaviors?  Punishment/reward doesn't work when no one knows they are being punished/rewarded.
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2011, 02:04:07 PM »
Reducing points/perks for the dominant country is an interesting idea.

Also, I wonder why so few people, such as I, know that you get more perks/points when attacking a numerically superior country's forces? 
Perhaps it isn't being communicated well. 
Maybe a message that pops up mentioning that fact at the appropriate time would be helpful in refocusing behaviors?  Punishment/reward doesn't work when no one knows they are being punished/rewarded.

It all ready does penalize.

lutzmax, go into the hangar.

Look at the clip board.

See the big thing labeled "PERK POINT BONUS"?

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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2011, 02:11:51 PM »

110C > p40e    :D



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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2011, 02:14:58 PM »

You get perks only if you have been in country for at least 12 hours. You see "perk points have been awarded" (or whatever the actual words are) in any case, because it's a system message for that country.

From the AH help page:

Idle curiosity...  With the smaller maps and current win the war criteria, haven't there been cases where the war has been won in less than 12 hours?  What happened then?

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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2011, 02:18:19 PM »
No you don't...  You, in your Spit16 shoots down 6 109's, versus me in my Mossie shooting down a Pony D and your Spit.......   Who gets more perks?  (all bonuses being equal)

Or do you mean the low number country?  You type funny dude.  Also, perk & points do not need a "/" inbetween them.  Perk Points is the name, not synonymous with each other.    :salute

Yeah you totally mean the low number country... But you're still wrong:

Bish - 69
Rook - 105
Knit - 90

I will get the same perks killing a Rook 190 as I would killing a Knit 190.   :salute

Reducing points/perks for the dominant country is an interesting idea.

Also, I wonder why so few people, such as I, know that you get more perks/points when attacking a numerically superior country's forces?  
Perhaps it isn't being communicated well.  
Maybe a message that pops up mentioning that fact at the appropriate time would be helpful in refocusing behaviors?  Punishment/reward doesn't work when no one knows they are being punished/rewarded.



Lusche........  I'm not sure if that still applies.  We had a quick turn around last tour and I received perks, yet it was my first time logging in for the tour.  
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2011, 02:21:20 PM »
You missed my point, HiTech,  
or I missed yours.

I accept that the perks get adjusted.  The number in the hangar doesn't specifically point out that the bonus is lower than it would be in a different country-balance situation.  It is just a number without any context.

To many players, once again, like me, it (the hangar number) means nothing.  Like going to a store and buying a Coke for $1...not realizing that next door it is only $.75.  The price is the price.

If there was a message pointing out that there is a perk point penalty, then perhaps people would make different choices.  Maybe the point-farmers notice it.  I've seen it, but it means nothing.

I appreciate you've gotten past making up motivations for me.
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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2011, 02:36:26 PM »
Speaking as just another dweeb, it seems to me the perk multiplier is pretty self-evident.  1 is normal, lower than 1 is not as much as it could be, higher than 1 is better.

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Re: Instead of ENY...
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2011, 02:41:41 PM »

Lusche........  I'm not sure if that still applies.  We had a quick turn around last tour and I received perks, yet it was my first time logging in for the tour.  


This is completely tour independent.
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