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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2011, 04:30:28 PM »
Torpedoes now are even launched at a relatively shallow depth. It's a matter of the amount of air pressure needed to launch the fish out of the tube at depth due to the water pressure.

Launching a torpedo at 200 feet or lower, while possible, would use much of a submarine's reserve air to do so as I understand it.

In regarts to WW2, torpedoes travelled in a straight line for the most part. No homing. I believe they could be programmed to make predetermined turns but were otherwise line of sight.



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Modern subs flood their tubes pre-launch to equalize the pressure.  It doesn't take much reserve air to get one moving. 
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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2011, 05:40:28 PM »
actually the ships that hunted u boats were called Corvettes
ok...so destroyers, destroyer escorts, sub chasers and frigates didn't hunt subs from 41-45.
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2011, 06:43:17 PM »
Mythbusters proved that and the sub would only need to dive about 10 feet under to be safe from all rounds.

It would not be safe 10ft underwater from a 57mm cannon round fired from a Mosquito FB Mk XVIII.

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« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2011, 06:54:29 PM »
Has anyone suggested submarines and u-boats for the naval aspect?  Might be neat.  :salute

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« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2011, 07:51:26 PM »
+ 1 for Subs.
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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2011, 10:06:58 PM »
I don't think any were launched at a depth lower than that...

EDIT: There was a story I heard a while ago about a british sub I belive torpedoing a german sub while neither were at parascope depth.  The german sub had been damged by either an alied ship or plane (pretty sure it was a ship) it's engine was making a loud clunking sound and the british sub heard this on their hydrophones.  They did some brainiac calculations and came up with an approximate range.  They fired 4 torpedoes at the german sub but only the last one hit.  It was the only non-parascope sub kill (I belive the only sub to sub kill), and the last german U-boat sunk during the war.

     The military channel had a show about it...story of the U-684

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_eQG8umnl0

     I know american subs sank japanese subs, but I believe they were surfaced at the time.
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« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2011, 10:16:23 PM »
actually the ships that hunted u boats were called Corvettes

     They weren't the only class by a long shot.  Aside from the myriad of destroyer and patrol craft classes,
even these guys hunted U-boats  :D

     
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« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2011, 10:21:37 PM »
Modern subs flood their tubes pre-launch to equalize the pressure.  It doesn't take much reserve air to get one moving. 

     I seem to remember something about an ADCAP Mk 48...in fact here is some interesting wiki data...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_48_torpedo 

     I also remember something about a "swim-out" torpedo that greatly lessens the launch transient to aid
in "stealth" attacks.
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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2011, 11:49:23 PM »
     They weren't the only class by a long shot.  Aside from the myriad of destroyer and patrol craft classes,
even these guys hunted U-boats  :D

     (Image removed from quote.)

i know they werent the only class hunting U boats, but at the beginning of the war and before the US entered roughly half of a convoys escorts were corvettes with a few destroyers to back them up in the convoy.

but your right that they werent the only ones. my mistake 

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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2011, 06:54:57 AM »
PBY-5A made a good sub hunter  :noid

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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2011, 02:57:25 PM »
How about being able to launch corvettes, u-boats, and floatplanes from ports. That will make it more difficult to take a port. And they had a the u-boat and corvttes had deck guns should they work like 5 inch guns?  Also, u-boats also had anti-aircraft guns. +2 to the whole concept.  :aok

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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2011, 03:23:03 PM »
PBY-5A made a good sub hunter  :noid

Demon is very addoment about getting his PBY... don't think he's going to shut up until he does get it.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2011, 04:08:16 PM »
How about being able to launch corvettes, u-boats, and floatplanes from ports. That will make it more difficult to take a port. And they had a the u-boat and corvttes had deck guns should they work like 5 inch guns?  Also, u-boats also had anti-aircraft guns. +2 to the whole concept.  :aok

i think some had 2, though not both were used for AA. one on the conning tower--a flak gun (book doesnt say which) and one just in front of it--that one was 88mm, in the case of the type VII-C.

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Re: Submarines???
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2011, 06:36:21 PM »
Apparently one went missing tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZTUSDdsAtI
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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2011, 06:53:38 PM »
     They weren't the only class by a long shot.  Aside from the myriad of destroyer and patrol craft classes,
even these guys hunted U-boats  :D

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