Cool new Shotgun

[GNucks]

Better to be judged by 12, then carried by 6.

Amen.

[allaire]

Arkansas doesn't have Castle Doctrine but then again we really don't need.  Taken from the Arkansas General Assembly site.

5-2-620. Use of force to defend persons and property within home.

   (a) The right of an individual to defend himself or herself and the life of a person or property in the individual's home against harm, injury, or loss by a person unlawfully entering or attempting to enter or intrude into the home is reaffirmed as a fundamental right to be preserved and promoted as a public policy in this state.       

   (b) There is a legal presumption that any force or means used to accomplish a purpose described in subsection (a) of this section was exercised in a lawful and necessary manner, unless the presumption is overcome by clear and convincing evidence to the contrary.       

   (c) The public policy stated in subsection (a) of this section shall be strictly complied with by the court and an appropriate instruction of this public policy shall be given to a jury sitting in trial of criminal charges brought in connection with this public policy.       

History..Acts 1981, No. 880, § 1; A.S.A. 1947, § 41-507.1.

God help you if the home you are attempting to burgle has an armed occupant.

[321BAR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFw5Py1oY4&feature=related

[F22RaptorDude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFw5Py1oY4&feature=related

Little reliability issue eh? 

[Spikes]

I'm not sure of NY's gun laws, but I'm sure since my state is retarded, if a guy breaks in and stabs himself, he can sue me and win.

I've always lived by "It's your word against his" when coming to the defense of my home and family.

[mbailey]

My grandfather has 4 12 gauges and 2 rifles and an M4 Carbine and a Co2 powered bb gun. He's never had anyone tell him he can't have them or given him any problems.

Im sure he does, and wont ever have any issues owning them, i was refering to killing someone that breaks into your home and threatens the security of yourself and or your family.

Little reliability issue eh?  

Id rather have a sharp stick for self defence then an Kel Tec. At least the sharp stick wont fail when i need it. Not a slam on Kel Tec owners, i personally dont like them.

[Flench]

My home defence shotgun, bar none the best tactical shotgun on the market Benelli M1 Tactical

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That Saiga 12 looks like a blast (pardon the pun) to shoot

I have a Mossberg 500 that ive had since i was 12yrs old, I still use it every year to hunt, its not pretty or fancy, but in the 28yrs ive owned it, its been one of the most reliable guns ive ever owned. Im sure when the time comes my 10yrold son will pass it to his son, and it will still be as reliable as it was the day I took it out of the box  

I would like a Benelli myself ...

[mbailey]

I'm not sure of NY's gun laws, but I'm sure since my state is retarded, if a guy breaks in and stabs himself, he can sue me and win.

I've always lived by "It's your word against his" when coming to the defense of my home and family.

Im not familiar with NY laws, but i think your statement isnt far off. (Great analogy btw  )

With proper bullet placement, It will only be your word  

I would like a Benelli myself ...

Get one, I guarentee you wont be dissapointed. Do they cost a little more? Sure they do, but you only buy quality once. (geez, im turning into my father  )

[Spikes]

With proper bullet placement, It will only be your word 

Exactly why I love the quote man.

I've always loved my 870s personally. Can use the thing as a walking stick, boat oar, and a weapon without cleaning.

[redman555]

My home defence shotgun, bar none the best tactical shotgun on the market Benelli M1 Tactical

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Everyone knows us Italians make the best shotgun. Ive been using a benelli for 6 years of trapshooting. Never had ONE problem with it.

-BigBOBCH

[Penguin]

Exactly why I love the quote man.

I've always loved my 870s personally. Can use the thing as a walking stick, boat oar, and a weapon without cleaning.

Oh, I know that this statement is trite, but; you'll shoot your eye out, kid!

-Penguin

PS Just kidding, those sound like fine weapons

[camnite]

this guy does a pretty decent review of it:
http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/35/h_z6vqX0-K0

[4deck]

No one does better reviews then FPS Russia

Heres the AA-12 Shotgun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8

[EskimoJoe]

No one does better reviews then FPS Russia

Heres the AA-12 Shotgun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8

Agreed!

[Golfer]

This is a good idea for some uses.  The manual of arms is a bit weird but can be dealt with through training.  It's definitely an interesting concept for some uses and a cool toy but it's practical use is somewhat limited.

I have a safe full of Remington hardware and I wish I could say the ones made today are as good as the ones in the past.  It's just not the case and it's unfortunate with the farming out of the work and switching to lower quality components in the name of cost.  My 18 year old 11-87 has had 2 issues in that time both were related to wear and took around 18,000 rounds to manifest.  The link on the back of the bolt broke and made it so you couldn't open the bolt because the fork slipped out of tube.  I replaced the pins and springs at the same time and the total bill came to about $100.  The other was on a sporting clay course about 3 months ago when I could only fire one shot.  A quick inspection showed that the extractor had broken (plunger and spring were still in place, just the extractor broke) and wasn't doing it's job pulling the spent hulls out of the chamber.  Fortunately parts aren't hard to find (nor are donor guns) and I was back in business in short order.  My dad's 1100 is over 40 years old and in all that time he's had the extractor fall out.  I learned my lesson after that and keep a few spares in the safe so that made me prepared for my extractor problem.  He also doesn't subject his gun to the volume or intensity of shooting I do which ranges from trap, skeet, sporting clays, upland, wetland and tactical shooting.

They don't make em like they used to.

If I need an auto loading shotgun today I'd buy Benelli but it's a hard sell to step away from my Remington auto loaders.  Pump guns you can't hardly beat an 870 or Mossberg 500 series.  Benelli makes some dandy pump guns as well.  I'd buy them for their practicality over the Kel Tec even though it's a neat concept.