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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2011, 10:37:13 AM »
I thought we were talking specifically about earthquakes, not volcanic hot spots. :-P

Since when has any thread on this BBS kept to the OP after even a few replies?   :neener:

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It sux that even after the original disaster they have to now deal with daily flooding from tides that weren't an issue before.  Maybe we could strap some rockets onto the Moon and push it a little farther away to lessen the tidal forces.  It's already slowly getting farther away from the Earth, so why not give it a little bump.  :D
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2011, 11:59:00 AM »
Have not the global warm...er climate change  alarmists jumped on this disaster yet and said "SEE!!!!"???

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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2011, 12:16:04 PM »
San Andreas is a slip fault, as someone said we're not going up or down in elevation, we're simply slipping merrily along it on our way up to San Fran.

There are however many smaller faults between the San Andreas and the coast that through collision and uplift have formed the various mountain ranges and valleys in the region, these are more prone to pushing houses closer into the ocean or up off its foundation.

In the Northeast the San Andreas and pacific rim go off-shore and hugs the coast, this area is not a slip area like the region south of San Fran to Baja, it is an uplift zone where the Pacific Plate has gone under the North American Plate due to Volcanic forces present in that region of the NA Plate (Nor Cal to the Sierras) that caused the Pacific Plate to take the low-road under it.  As a result off the North coast a steep drop-off of the tidal shelf offshore occurs and the mountainous Northeast quarter of the state was formed from associated seismic activity of those plates.  

From about middle-north (starting West of the North Sacramento Valley) all the way out East and Southeast to the Sierras and continueing up far North and into the Cascades and Canada is mostly Volcanic, including the long-dormant massive Mt. Shasta, CA the massive and active Mt. Lassen, CA and the infamously active and recently erupted Mt. St. Hellens, WA.


As for communities historicaly being effected by tidal and geographic changes, look up the Native Americans indiginous to the Channel Islands just a few miles off the Southern California coast, as well as North Western Native American Coastal tribes effected historicaly by tsunamis since before westerners and record keeping arrived.

To California specificaly, liquidfaction is not as signifigant or likely an issue as most populated areas are on more solid ground that those regions effected by it recently on the other side of the Pacific.  That isn't to say they don't exist though, we know of plenty of areas that are built ontop of loose agrigates but they're particulates are much more coarce and heavier than IE: the very fine volcanic agrigate (very fine volcanic (light and pourous) sand) under parts of New Zealand.  The hills though here in California aren't all bad though, due to the uplifting the bedrock is close to the surface in most areas, making for ideal pads to construct seismicly safe building foundations/pads and no worries about liquidfaction problems later.
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2011, 12:45:54 PM »
Also, whereas most of the U.S. plate activity revolves around subduction zones, most of the action in Mexico is in abduction zones...
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2011, 01:16:55 PM »
Have not the global warm...er climate change  alarmists jumped on this disaster yet and said "SEE!!!!"???

I guess not, but some other idiots showed up
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2011, 02:15:24 PM »
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2011, 02:35:14 PM »
Also, whereas most of the U.S. plate activity revolves around subduction zones, most of the action in Mexico is in abduction zones...

I've always meant to set aside some time to study the Mexican seduction zones and avoid abduction.
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2011, 07:53:43 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on Today at 12:54:02 AM
So, when the big one hits Cal, we will see the gound liquefied and slid into the ocean


Of course not.  Where do you get such absurd ideas?

Was Japan "liquefied"?  Why would California be "liquefied"?  It isn't like California hasn't had absolutely massive quakes in the past.

I think this may be the "gound liquefied" that oak is talking about. And yes there is/was plenty of it going on in Japan.
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2011, 09:07:02 PM »
About the New Madrid fault.....seen a report that it could of been a separate fault that caused the big quakes in the 1800's. Thought it might of been the Wabash fault around SE IL
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2011, 04:44:55 PM »
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2011, 05:40:51 PM »
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2011, 08:26:08 PM »
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Re: World Quake Shifted Japan; Towns Now Flood at High Tide
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2011, 12:13:57 AM »
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