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Offline Angus

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yet another global warming thread.
« on: May 20, 2011, 06:32:28 AM »
Just stumbled on this one. Somewhat staggering. Looks like that the northern Iecap will be having a baldie in some....5 years
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 06:41:00 AM »
Basically, were all going to die  :D
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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 06:59:32 AM »
What is the frequency of this sine wave?
Seriously, I hope that they have some physics behind this extrapolation because extrapolating based on a polynomial fitting with no physical model behind it is the worst kind of science. It is easy to prove that to any given set of data I can find a polynomial that will fit all the data and predict an ice sheet heavier than the mass of the sun by 2020.
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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 07:00:26 AM »
Wow, math is powerful.

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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 08:27:40 AM »
This whole global warming debate is completely screwed.
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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 09:05:43 AM »
Math or no math, these are just monthly measures over a certain period.
Extrapolating as they go will lead you to nil. in about 2016
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 09:34:51 AM »
What about before 1979? 
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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 09:43:46 AM »
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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 09:47:52 AM »
What about before 1979?  

Haven't pulled up any figures, but searching for "ice cap area over 100 years" gave me this as the first result:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850


And as with any set of data, I'd be interested to know:
-what are the units of the y-axis
-what is the data on the y-axis representing (I guess it's area of ice, but I don't know)
-where/how was it obtained
-is it the entire set of data
-where are the measurements from
-were any of the data defined as outliers and removed

...and so on.

Until these things are known, that chart is essentially meaningless.
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Re: yet another global warming thread.
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 09:49:38 AM »
Haven't pulled up any figures, but searching for "ice cap area over 100 years" gave me this as the first result:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850


And as with any set of data, I'd be interested to know:
-what are the units of the y-axis
-what is the data on the y-axis representing (I guess it's area of ice, but I don't know)
-where/how was it obtained
-is it the entire set of data
-where are the measurements from
-were any of the data defined as outliers and removed

...and so on.

Until these things are known, that chart is essentially meaningless.

This is exactly what I was about to ask so...

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