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Offline jollyFE

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Start flight training in August
« on: May 20, 2011, 09:39:17 AM »
Can't wait, a few of us from work are starting flight training in August, by the end of the degree program we should have our commercial ratings.
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Offline Grayeagle

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 03:58:34 PM »
*very* cool :)

Whatcha gonna be trainin in? 172's or?

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 04:07:57 PM »
not sure, im a bigger guy 6 1' and about 230 so I'm not sure if the lil 152 could drag my fat body around.  also depends on the school, I'd prefer a 172 so I could go fly the CAP acft when I meet the hours requirement.
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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 04:19:55 PM »
not sure, im a bigger guy 6 1' and about 230 so I'm not sure if the lil 152 could drag my fat body around.  also depends on the school, I'd prefer a 172 so I could go fly the CAP acft when I meet the hours requirement.

I recommend you go for a DA20, DA40, or SR20. A much more modern airframe, faster, safer, better visibility, and more enjoyable than the 172. CAP flies 182 so you'll have to take a few lessons to transition either way.

I'll come back later tonight to explain my reasoning more specifically (don't have much time right now).
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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 04:31:49 PM »
Advice for AH players starting real flight training:

1. Avoid the urge to initiate rolling scissors with nearby air traffic.

2. Do not call "tally ho" when sighting nearby air traffic.

3. Avoid urge to strafe buildings with the guns you don't have.

4. Do not attempt to impress flight instructor with hammerhead turn.

5. Do not ask Chewie to post mission.

6. Do not offer to "run sups" for airport service vehicles.

7. Do not try to set up a crossing shot with nearby air traffic.

8. Multi-engine aircraft are not referred to as "buffs"

9. Do not try to vulch.

10. For the love of dog do not HO.


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Offline Grayeagle

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 04:36:25 PM »
Once you find out what you will be learning to fly in .. get the flight manual.
Read it.

A Lot.
Memorize the important stuff (Vne .. best climb speed .. max load .. etc)

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 04:38:14 PM »
Advice for AH players starting real flight training:

1. Avoid the urge to initiate rolling scissors with nearby air traffic.

2. Do not call "tally ho" when sighting nearby air traffic.

3. Avoid urge to strafe buildings with the guns you don't have.

4. Do not attempt to impress flight instructor with hammerhead turn.

5. Do not ask Chewie to post mission.

6. Do not offer to "run sups" for airport service vehicles.

7. Do not try to set up a crossing shot with nearby air traffic.

8. Multi-engine aircraft are not referred to as "buffs"

9. Do not try to vulch.

10. For the love of dog do not HO.
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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 05:20:10 PM »
Heck I can't even get the money together for a helicopter program.. let alone getting commercial with planes!!!  It's really not fair for those of us who were less financially set from the get-go...

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 05:24:23 PM »
, and more enjoyable than the 172.

I'd argue that. Ive flown the diamonds, havent flown a Cirrus.
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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 05:29:14 PM »
Heck I can't even get the money together for a helicopter program.. let alone getting commercial with planes!!!  It's really not fair for those of us who were less financially set from the get-go...

Helicopters cost about 3x as much as airplanes.........
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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 05:33:10 PM »
not sure, im a bigger guy 6 1' and about 230 so I'm not sure if the lil 152 could drag my fat body around.  also depends on the school, I'd prefer a 172 so I could go fly the CAP acft when I meet the hours requirement.

6'5 280 here and I did all my training in a 172.  My instructor was my a gal that became my wife (she is 5 foot 2)....It was really funny to watch us.  She couldnt see over the dash of the 172 to land it she had to look out the side to land.   
The only HO I have every attempted was with a French potato named Miss Francine.  Otherwise I stay away from the HO it makes me very nervous having 20 and 30mm shells whipping by my canopy.

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 05:34:28 PM »
Advice for AH players starting real flight training:

1. Avoid the urge to initiate rolling scissors with nearby air traffic.

2. Do not call "tally ho" when sighting nearby air traffic.

3. Avoid urge to strafe buildings with the guns you don't have.

4. Do not attempt to impress flight instructor with hammerhead turn.

5. Do not ask Chewie to post mission.

6. Do not offer to "run sups" for airport service vehicles.

7. Do not try to set up a crossing shot with nearby air traffic.

8. Multi-engine aircraft are not referred to as "buffs"

9. Do not try to vulch.

10. For the love of dog do not HO.




This is great!!!!! Love the Chewie comment
The only HO I have every attempted was with a French potato named Miss Francine.  Otherwise I stay away from the HO it makes me very nervous having 20 and 30mm shells whipping by my canopy.

WD Cameron...Army Air Corp  P47d-11 and D-40 France Italy and Germany.

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 06:03:51 PM »
Advice for AH players starting real flight training:

1. Avoid the urge to initiate rolling scissors with nearby air traffic.

2. Do not call "tally ho" when sighting nearby air traffic.

3. Avoid urge to strafe buildings with the guns you don't have.

4. Do not attempt to impress flight instructor with hammerhead turn.

5. Do not ask Chewie to post mission.

6. Do not offer to "run sups" for airport service vehicles.

7. Do not try to set up a crossing shot with nearby air traffic.

8. Multi-engine aircraft are not referred to as "buffs"

9. Do not try to vulch.

10. For the love of dog do not HO.

you meant sheep right?  :D

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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2011, 09:46:15 PM »
I recommend you go for a DA20, DA40, or SR20. A much more modern airframe, faster, safer, better visibility, and more enjoyable than the 172. CAP flies 182 so you'll have to take a few lessons to transition either way.

I'll come back later tonight to explain my reasoning more specifically (don't have much time right now).

Besides being a faster airplane this is why I think you should do your training is either DA20, DA40, or SR20.

DA20 has a light composite airframe that gives you high speed (relatively) on a 125hp engine. Since it was build out a glider you have a great glide ratio (1:14 as far as I remember). One of my favorite things that the Diamond did is made the seats a part of the main frame, so in case of a crash the seats stay where they are and do not squash the pilot. Also you have very good visibility as the canopy has no bars wish give you a large blind spot and make you have to look around. It does have more sensitive controls, a stick, and a conventional throttle (no idea what's the officially name is, google for a cockpit picture of it and a 172 you'll see what I'm taking about), now personally I see those as advantages but it's just a point of view.

If you do your training in a non-trainer aircraft (such as DA40 & SR20) it will take a little longer to get your license and will cost more. However if you do your training in a trainer you will get used to your airplane correcting a lot of mistakes (such as not wanting to spin), I personally see this as a disadvantage because after you get out of training you will probably fly something faster that will not be so forgiving.
If you do decide to do your training in an aircraft of this class keep in mind that it will have systems that might be a little overwhelming for new student, such as a constant speed prop and a glass cockpit. It will require more studding.

One of my personal favorite advantages of the SR20 is it's ballistic recovery system, basically it has a rocket in the back that deploys a parachute for the whole plane in case if you get in deep trouble.

Than again there is nothing wrong with the 172, I just suggest a few things over it.

I recommend you take a flight in a few different airframes to decide what you like best.

What ever you do do not do your training in a C-172SP. It has a G1000 that just does not belong in a 172 (it does not fit). The fuses are located under the yoke because there is no room for them anywhere else, so in case if you have to pull out one of your fuses in flight (or push it in after it pops out) you will have to turn your yoke 90° to see which fuse is witch and as far as you understand you do not want to do that in flight. Also if you'll be flying IFR and your G1000 stops working you will be forced to use your standby instruments, those are located just above your throttle. They are incredibly uncomfortable to use, you will need to move your seat all the way down and back to see them at a proper angle. Plus the whole things adds a good hundred pounds the the airplane.
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Re: Start flight training in August
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2011, 09:49:58 PM »
Advice for AH players starting real flight training:

1. Avoid the urge to initiate rolling scissors with nearby air traffic.

2. Do not call "tally ho" when sighting nearby air traffic.

3. Avoid urge to strafe buildings with the guns you don't have.

4. Do not attempt to impress flight instructor with hammerhead turn.

5. Do not ask Chewie to post mission.

6. Do not offer to "run sups" for airport service vehicles.

7. Do not try to set up a crossing shot with nearby air traffic.

8. Multi-engine aircraft are not referred to as "buffs"

9. Do not try to vulch.

10. For the love of dog do not HO.

LMAO
"Now, if I had to make the choice of one fighter aircraft above all the others...it would be, without any doubt, the world's greatest propeller driven flying machine - the magnificent and immortal Spitfire."
Lt. Col. William R. Dunn
flew Spitfires, Hurricanes, P-51s, P-47s, and F-4s