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Offline JUGgler

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Westland Whirlwind
« on: May 21, 2011, 05:50:56 PM »
100+ delivered flew for almost 4 years from 1939-1943, mostly ground attack  :aok


Just for fun comparisons  F4U-1C, 200 delivered 1943-1944 almost exclusively ground attack

P47M 130 delivered late 1944, many many problems with this model initially, 15 confirmed air to air victories

B-239 Brewster, 44 delivered- 400+ kills vs very inexperienced and very poorly led Russian aircraft

Less than 100 ME163s were delivered

From the info I can't find it seems the spitfire mk16 was delivered in very low #s by the end of the war, I also believe "the lions share" was relegated to ground attack  <-- I could be wrong here. Info on the mk16 is very hard to find.  for me anyhow

Numbers on the TA152 are quite low I'm sure

Anyhow out of all these rides the Westland Whirlwind served much longer and arguably impacted WW2 more than any of the above


Soooooooooooooo lets have it  :aok


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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 05:55:17 PM »
Wait so do you want it because we have planes that were produces in smaller numbers or because it will actually have something to do in AH?
I think it would be a hangar queen, mossy6 is capable of doing it's job and it has an ENY of 30.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 07:05:45 PM »

Numbers on the TA152 are quite low I'm sure

I think i read somewhere around 160 ro 170, but this is from memory, not sure if its correct, or im mistaking it for something else.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 07:17:44 PM »
I think i read somewhere around 160 ro 170, but this is from memory, not sure if its correct, or im mistaking it for something else.

Less than 50 Ta152s were built.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 08:01:30 PM »
Ah, one of my all-times faves, the Whirlwind...









Another old Whirlwind thread:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,237815.0.html


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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 08:02:21 PM »
It's got two engines. Good enough for me. :D
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 08:41:11 PM »
Ah, one of my all-times faves, the Whirlwind...

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Another old Whirlwind thread:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,237815.0.html

it looks like a mossie that went on a diet.


how would it fair against the mossie fighter/p38's/110s and any other twin engined fighters in the game?

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2011, 08:47:42 PM »
it looks like a mossie that went on a diet.


how would it fair against the mossie fighter/p38's/110s and any other twin engined fighters in the game?

I have not read much about it's performance but it seems that it's underpowered. It has 2 885 hp engines and an empty weight of 8000lb. 
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 09:50:20 PM »
it looks like a mossie that went on a diet.


how would it fair against the mossie fighter/p38's/110s and any other twin engined fighters in the game?
It only climbs 1,500 fpm (slower than a 110c) and only holds 60 rounds per cannon,
so the same firing time as a Spit V, not too good.
The Kanonenvogel had 6 rounds per pod, this is not even close to being open for debate.

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 10:17:05 PM »
Less than 50 Ta152s were built.

Yep, 43 that they can account for, just read it. I was thinking of something else.

Not sure how reliable this source is but............http://focke-wulf-ta-152.co.tv/

+1 on the Whirlwind  :aok
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 10:38:40 PM »
Thats an ugly bird!!! +1!
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 11:28:53 PM »
is ugly, like a slim mossy.. I like it  :rock

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2011, 12:29:18 AM »
only 60 rounds per gun?  I'll pass.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2011, 05:06:26 AM »
+1,000,000!!

Before you knock it compared to what we already have, remember the Whirlwind was essentially a 1930s design and an attempt to answer the demand for heavier fighter armament. A Teddy Petter design it typically had some notable features for its day. One of the first fighter aircraft with a bubble canopy (with rear-view mirror incorporated), less frontal area than a Hurricane, excellent handling characteristics and large Fowler flaps (for which the rear section of the nacelles also tipped downwards, see photo). What the pictures don't illustrate is the diminutive size, it was only slightly larger than some of the single-engine fighters of the day. Quickly nickname the Crikey for its (comparatively) high speed!

Powered by a development of an even earlier Rolls Royce V12, it was originally thought that the compact (but troublesome) Peregrine engine would eventually become the standard fighter engine for the forthcoming war until the Merlin replaced it. Shows how quickly was the pace of development in those times. Spitfires and Hurricanes mounting cannon and Rolls Royce discontinuing manufacture of the Peregrine marked the end of this promising design.
















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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2011, 05:18:08 AM »
What if you cross the mossie and the 262?   
You get the Whirlwind!   
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