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Offline StokesAk

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Re: Boating School
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2011, 01:53:38 PM »
ask spongebob.oh wait,thats a bad idea
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Re: Boating School
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2011, 05:00:29 PM »
You stated that you only knew the names in Polish.


Ah, thank you.

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Re: Boating School
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2011, 05:43:01 PM »
A schooner?  I thought that it was a sloop if it had one mast and two sails.  I don't know the names in English, but I know them in Polish.

Ket- 1 mast 1 sail
Slup- 1 mast two sails
Sluter- 1 mast three sails
Kecz- 2 masts three sails, steering behind rearmost sail
Jol- 2 masts three sails, steering before rearmost sail but behind second to rearmost sail

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I am a professional merchant mariner of 20 years holding a 200 ton Near Coastal licence with sailing endorsement and Able Bodied seaman. Penguin, you don't need a licence to operate a vessel if it is not for commercial purposes, that is, you won't be getting paid to run it. Judging by your lack of knowledge demonstrated by your super tanker statement, you should not endanger yourself, your family or the public by renting a vessel and not being completely comfortable with it, the navigational regulations and the waters you plan to operate in. People get killed routinely on the water and an entry level boating class does not mean you should tackle something you don't have a lot of recent experience with. Hire a licensed captain for any real cruising~ inland waters can be just as treacherous. 

A sloop and cutter are both single masted, a sloops' mast is in the first 1/3rd of the hull and a cutter's is located bet 1/3 and 1/2 way aft both have a mainsail and one or more foresails.

Ketches and Yawls are two masted with the larger mainmast forward. In a yawl the mizzen or after mast is stepped aft of the helm and a ketch forward.

Schooners can have up to five masts (usually two) the taller mainmast is stepped aft of the shorter mizzen forward.

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Re: Boating School
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2011, 09:13:06 PM »
I am a professional merchant mariner of 20 years holding a 200 ton Near Coastal licence with sailing endorsement and Able Bodied seaman. Penguin, you don't need a licence to operate a vessel if it is not for commercial purposes, that is, you won't be getting paid to run it. Judging by your lack of knowledge demonstrated by your super tanker statement, you should not endanger yourself, your family or the public by renting a vessel and not being completely comfortable with it, the navigational regulations and the waters you plan to operate in. People get killed routinely on the water and an entry level boating class does not mean you should tackle something you don't have a lot of recent experience with. Hire a licensed captain for any real cruising~ inland waters can be just as treacherous. 

A sloop and cutter are both single masted, a sloops' mast is in the first 1/3rd of the hull and a cutter's is located bet 1/3 and 1/2 way aft both have a mainsail and one or more foresails.

Ketches and Yawls are two masted with the larger mainmast forward. In a yawl the mizzen or after mast is stepped aft of the helm and a ketch forward.

Schooners can have up to five masts (usually two) the taller mainmast is stepped aft of the shorter mizzen forward.

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I was pointing out something that I found odd, I didn't mean to claim to be qualified.  I messed that up.  I have no clue what I would do if I had to be the skipper of one.

Yes, I know very well the dangers of inland waters (running aground on a small river can be easy if you don't pay attention).  I understand that I need to be comfortable with the local regulations and conditions; not every place has a constant gentle breeze with few to no storms.  I have no intention of renting anything without checking those out first.
So I don't need a liscence to rent a boat (with adult supervision, of course)?  Awesome! :x

Thanks for your words of wisdom, sir.

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Re: Boating School
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2011, 12:38:15 AM »
If you had gotten a Pirate's License, that would have been cooler...



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Re: Boating School
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2011, 05:46:18 AM »
inland waters can be just as treacherous. 



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He he  :lol

We had property on the Delaware river halfway between Easton and Philly, PA when I was a kid.  There was an island about a half mile up river and one a half mile down river.

Our neighbor's name was Fred.  He had a rock in front of his place about 8' in diameter and perpetually 6" under the surface (always just enough to hide it without causing surface disturbance)  We called it Fred's rock.  I've seen more than one guy with brand a brand new boat come ripping along and tear their outboard and transom clean off.    :O
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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2011, 12:51:36 PM »
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This happened Tuesday night.  The guy involved broke his nose, crushed his sinuses, badly damaged one of his eyes and broke some ribs.  He's had one operation so far with a bunch more to come.
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Re: Boating School
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2011, 04:23:29 PM »
My cousin is an insurance man.  This father asks him to get insurance on a $80,000 dollar boat he bought for his 20 year old son.  Cousin tells them that he will have to go to a boating school and the closes school is in St Louis.  Father decides not to send him and takes the boat to the lake.  Last Sunday, a tornado comes through and sinks it to the bottom   :O.
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« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2011, 08:41:50 PM »
At least he didn't drive it under a shore battery.  :D


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Re: Boating School
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2011, 09:03:57 PM »
Sluter- 1 mast three sails

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Dude, if she has 1 mast and three sails you have a couple of major issues.  Number one....shes a tranny.  Number two..."it" had one added to its back for slow dancing. :bolt:
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Re: Boating School
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2011, 09:06:40 PM »
I don't trust sailboats...they seem to be very unstable


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Re: Boating School
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2011, 07:57:59 AM »
Penguin, you should learn the rules of the road for the river or 2 miles out from shore. I am not sure what you learned with your license.
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Re: Boating School
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2011, 09:15:49 AM »
What did I learn?

  • Rules of the Road
  • Meteorology
  • Search and Rescue
  • Maintnance
  • Ship vocabulary
  • Tacking/Jibing
  • Standing under the wind
  • Escape from a sandbar
  • Rules while in port
  • Rules while underway

I had the second highest score on the written test in a class of 12.  It was a three week sleepaway school with six hours of sailing daily and one hour of lecture every other day.  Quizzes were every three days, and I had to translate my notes from spoken Polish to written English so that I could learn.  It wasn't easy, but I learned a great deal.

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Re: Boating School
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2011, 09:24:13 AM »
I don't trust sailboats...they seem to be very unstable


I'll stay anchored to the sandbar in my boat... :)

Motors are nice, but nothing beats the peacefulness of a sailboat. I was sailing in rock port bay once and had porpoises come along side the boat, it was really cool
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Re: Boating School
« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2011, 09:30:51 AM »
Yes, there's no better feeling than sitting on the bow of a sailboat in a bay while sailing with the wind.  The rocking of the boat, the wind in your hair, the gentle wavering of the sails- it's amazing.  It's so peaceful and beautiful to be on a sailboat.

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