Why don't more squads want to participate in SDL ?

[LCADolby]

Personally, I don't see the appeal of SDL. Any type of league brings out the competative side of people.
All that adrenaline and testosterone only causes arguements.
SDL needs good winners and good losers, and as you can't make people either...

[FiLtH]

 Winning is a license to gloat, and losing should feel like crap. Thats the way it should be. To compete without passion, you may as well stay out of competition altogether.

[mthrockmor]

What about allowing a minimu of 4 v 4?

Boo

[DrBone1]

What about allowing a minimu of 4 v 4?

Boo

This would be great. 

[zack1234]

SDL should be renamed BOSDL "Best of Squad Dualing League".

This dueling event is for a limited selection of game players who need to show there prowess against other like minded players, this is the only reason it has a dwindling amount of entrants.

The majority of players will never take part in such a event no matter what rules and fixes are applied to it.

The last couple of SECs i flew in were very good though

[LThunderpocket]

cause the FBS upped hurri's and spits and hid in ack last time

[mechanic]

Winning is a license to gloat, and losing should feel like crap. Thats the way it should be. To compete without passion, you may as well stay out of competition altogether.

Indeed, but there is a difference between what you describe and losing causing months of purse swinging.

[Yarbles]

Seems to me like the matches are simply to few and far between.  There should be more of a schedule.  Similar to the Dueling Ladder, each squad has an assigned opponent and must complete the duel within X number of weeks or both squads are scored as a loss...  Or something like that.  I just think it is hard to get folks motivated when the matches are so spaced out.

Thats exactly what I think. Too few matches becase they are left to CO's to negotiate, This is hard to administer and when there are few matches the usual ego's end up argueing over the results on here when the positive thing would be to move on and prepare for the next match. The problem is there is no next match and everyone is getting their panties in a twist over the last one they dont get the next one orgasised.

Fixtures, Independant admistration and adjudication with a 4 minimum.

[Yarbles]

Personally, I don't see the appeal of SDL. Any type of league brings out the competative side of people.
All that adrenaline and testosterone only causes arguements.
SDL needs good winners and good losers, and as you can't make people either...

Yes but in properly organised competition people can learn how to deal with their negative emotions without lashing out on here or sulking. The hardest lesson is dealing with the occasional injustice real or percieved and being able to move on. It what we British used to call playing the game. Learning to basically accpet the judges decision and "shut it". As to the event itself surely it should be played to win but within the rules and again if people win within the rules no one should be crying about it afterwards.  

SDL should be renamed BOSDL "Best of Squad Dualing League".

This dueling event is for a limited selection of game players who need to show there prowess against other like minded players, this is the only reason it has a dwindling amount of entrants.

The majority of players will never take part in such a event no matter what rules and fixes are applied to it.

The last couple of SECs i flew in were very good though

That is down to the individual CO's as to whether they will encourage partcipation or just put their top 6 or 4 forward to win. The more people involved the better for the event is my opinion.

[Yarbles]

Winning is a license to gloat, and losing should feel like crap. Thats the way it should be. To compete without passion, you may as well stay out of competition altogether.

I dont see why their needs to be any gloating winning should be enough. Sadly there will always be insecure people who have to extract the maximum and some to make up for other deficiencies in their lives but I don't think this should be accepted or encouraged. It is neither good behaviour or good for competition. I think some people really do think competition is just about winning and actually doing someothing you enjoy with others is of no importance if you are not going to win. Isn't that really quite sad.  

[zack1234]

The majority of AH game players play game for fun, with the back biting and squeaking gone on over the months in SDL you are not going to get a influx of people attending.

The SDL is a elite stomping ground for certain individuals, the majority of AH game players are aware of this and thus don't take part in these events.

SEC is where its at by the way good fun.

[Yarbles]

The majority of AH game players play game for fun, with the back biting and squeaking gone on over the months in SDL you are not going to get a influx of people attending.

The SDL is a elite stomping ground for certain individuals, the majority of AH game players are aware of this and thus don't take part in these events.

SEC is where its at by the way good fun.

But there only seem to be about 3 competitive squads in SDL. It seems that if there were more squads in their then ther would be more opportunities for a fun event. I am surprised if the antics of a minority have put the rest off.
The problem for an average squad currently is they might face annihilation against say the top 3 but that is because there is no one else, with say 10 active squads the whole thing might be transformed.

[zack1234]

Maybe you should play Kofi Annan and make advances to other squads and tri and jump start the SDL's

[Yarbles]

Maybe you should play Kofi Annan and make advances to other squads and tri and jump start the SDL's

Yes that's what I am trying to do  

[kculon]

With limited time to fly these days, The SDL takes too much of it. I have been getting in maybe 10 hours a month. To provide a high level of competition I need to have a lot more time in the game. Training with the squad takes a few hours a week. Learning your mates flying takes even longer. Becoming a solid squad of tough fighters takes a long time too. I hope we at the LD have enough people and time to do SDL- S3.

Also I think the sportsmanship needs some improvement. I won't dig through it all again, but after some, not all, but some matches hearing all the negative talk about this or that when we all knew no rules were broken. Just silly and a big put off for me.

I enjoyed the matches, and winning SDL-S1 was really a high point of my AH experience.
I hope we can get some good squads in for SDL-S3 that want to have fun, supply a high level of competition and sportsmanship!!!!
<S> ~kc