Pt Spawns to spawn LVT too.

[Krusty]

oh come on krusty...

You seem to think I'm talking about the time of the trip being the issue. No.

LVTs were shallow water vehicles. They could float. That does NOT mean they could sail the seas. There's a reason certain vessels will work in lakes but you should never take them into the sea. There's a reason they loaded these things from ships rather than having them make their own journey. They could NOT survive. Even mild chop will overturn a lot of these so-called amphibious vehicles. They were strictly limited to where they could be used, and did not set out on their own across vast distances like PT boats did.

Your analogy of the plane flying to 30k doesn't work because... frankly... the plane COULD fly at 30k. LVTs couldn't run in deep water. No more than a flat-bottom boat could, I'd wager.

[MK-84]

Luche was talking about adding a new use for the LVTs that we already have.  He also stated that this was not about "realism."   I say    Id sounds fun for a lvt raid.  It gives us players something new to try for what appears to be a minimal change.

[gyrene81]

You seem to think I'm talking about the time of the trip being the issue. No.

LVTs were shallow water vehicles. They could float. That does NOT mean they could sail the seas. There's a reason certain vessels will work in lakes but you should never take them into the sea. There's a reason they loaded these things from ships rather than having them make their own journey. They could NOT survive. Even mild chop will overturn a lot of these so-called amphibious vehicles. They were strictly limited to where they could be used, and did not set out on their own across vast distances like PT boats did.

Your analogy of the plane flying to 30k doesn't work because... frankly... the plane COULD fly at 30k. LVTs couldn't run in deep water. No more than a flat-bottom boat could, I'd wager.

you don't know much about lvt's krusty...no they weren't deep ocean vessels but they were deployed from lst's and it wasn't done in calm shallow lake waters...they started 2-3 miles offshore in water deep enough for the ships to operate, not rivers and lakes.

you should see some of the wartime videos of lvt's and lca's in action...here are a few

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675042087_Invasion-of-Aguni-Jima_Landing-Crafts_troops-advancing-on-beach_shoreline

watch the big ships sitting closer to shore than where the lvt's are...
http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675047900_Landing-Vehicle-Tracked_United-States-fleet_cruiser-firing_smoke-from-Mount-Surabachi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NugZHgqdax0

how much are you willing to wager now?

[jolly22]

This is getting good.

[BaldEagl]

LVTs were shallow water vehicles. They could float. That does NOT mean they could sail the seas.

They can in this game.  Ever launched one from a CV in the middle of the sea?

There's a reason they loaded these things from ships rather than having them make their own journey. They could NOT survive. Even mild chop will overturn a lot of these so-called amphibious vehicles.

Ummm... did you know they launched amphibious Sherman tanks from the ships offshore during the D-Day invasions?

BTW, we should have those in the game.

[skorpion]

True

But there always can be some surprises. Last night the Rooks twice brought an M3 to a Bish town without any GV spawn. They had to drive for 20 miles. They almost sneaked the base while everybody else was out there looking for goons

i drove 4 sectors downhill in a t34/76 with a few friends last month...only took about 10 minutes

but i give this an idea a +1

[iron650]

Ummm... did you know they launched amphibious Sherman tanks from the ships offshore during the D-Day invasions?

They were put on landing boats to get to shore.

[gyrene81]

They were put on landing boats to get to shore.

of course the majority were...but some went ashore with the troops in the lvts on the first waves, guess how they got there...look up sherman dd (dual drive).



i found this lvt video, it's a little more clear and in wwii color...cameraman rode an lvt to the beach on iwo jima with a marine platoon...very cool stuff.
http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675062104_Battle-of-Iwo-Jima_Mount-Suribachi_landing-vehicle-tracked_smoke-from-explosion

[Melvin]

Ummm... did you know they launched amphibious Sherman tanks from the ships offshore during the D-Day invasions?

Didn't the majority of them sink, thus proving it a failed concept?

[BaldEagl]

They were put on landing boats to get to shore.

Not all of them.  As gyrene pointed out, look up Sherman DD.

Didn't the majority of them sink, thus proving it a failed concept?

Many of them sank.  I don't know if it was a majority or not.  The concept worked but the sea was too rough that day.  Regardless none of the LVT's sank due to rough chop as Krusty seems to claim they should.  I mean come on, they were trying to float TANKS in rough waters.

[Easyscor]

I like it for the game.

This would require a radio button on the clipboard in the hanger to select between GV spawns and Boat spawns, because all the GV spawn points might be taken, or all the Boat spawns might be filled. The game would need some way to tell which set to use.

[Melvin]

I know that this is Wiki, but it should shed some light on the DD subject. It looks as if they were actually more successful than I thought and therefore get a +1 from me. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD_tank

[AWwrgwy]

Ummm... did you know they launched amphibious Sherman tanks from the ships offshore during the D-Day invasions?

BTW, we should have those in the game.

And most of them sank until some enterprising LCT Captain decided to run them right up on to the beach.

Back on track....

I seem to vaguely recall at one point you could launch LVTs to PT spawns but you ended up waaay off the beach and it was a loooong drive @ 5knts.


wrongway

[gyrene81]

5 knots??? good grief...lvt4 should travel 7.5 knots and the lvt2 should get 6.5 knots... 

[matt]

+1 


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