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Offline Widewing

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Re: P-40B
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2011, 05:23:22 PM »
A P-40 that performs, like a P-51D that turns, would probably be so ruinously popular it would have to be perked, thus...  :noid

Yeah, that would be like introducing the P-40Q.... 400+ mph, turns like a P-40E.  :O

I think that the P-40s would see more use if the performance modeling were corrected. Still, they are early-war fighters and would not see a lot of use, except by those who simply like P-40s and those who enjoy the challenge of flying a 1941 fighter in an arena buzzing with late-war monsters.
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Re: P-40B
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2011, 05:46:56 PM »
Yeah, that would be like introducing the P-40Q.... 400+ mph, turns like a P-40E.  :O

I think that the P-40s would see more use if the performance modeling were corrected. Still, they are early-war fighters and would not see a lot of use, except by those who simply like P-40s and those who enjoy the challenge of flying a 1941 fighter in an arena buzzing with late-war monsters.

It's a dead sexy American legend, like the P-51. Like the P-51, I expect it would see far more use than its abilities actually warrant, if it were not positively handicapped. But yes, I admit it would never take over the LWMA, and that is the only MA that counts at this point.
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Re: P-40B
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2011, 10:44:45 PM »
Not even the best P-40 approached P-51 speeds.

XP-40Q was a stripped down testbed prototype... might as well consider it in the same class as the prototypes of the P-39 for all the difference between prototypes and production war-time models.

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Re: P-40B
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2011, 07:01:19 PM »
Not even the best P-40 approached P-51 speeds.

XP-40Q was a stripped down testbed prototype... might as well consider it in the same class as the prototypes of the P-39 for all the difference between prototypes and production war-time models.

Three were built, and the design eventually evolved into the final configuration. One was built from a P-40N, and the other two were converted from P-40Ks. They were not stripped down, but were fitted with all Government provided equipment. Aero wise, drag was reduced and the 1,425 (takeoff) hp Allison worked very well. A very similar version would later power most P-82 Twin Mustangs. It could manage 422 mph, not as fast as the P-51, but vastly quicker than the typical P-40.
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Re: P-40B
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2011, 07:45:30 PM »
Not even the best P-40 approached P-51 speeds.

XP-40Q was a stripped down testbed prototype... might as well consider it in the same class as the prototypes of the P-39 for all the difference between prototypes and production war-time models.

Another net caused double-post..... You guys need a better connection to the web.
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Re: P-40B
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2011, 09:54:21 AM »
Three were built, and the design eventually evolved into the final configuration. One was built from a P-40N, and the other two were converted from P-40Ks. They were not stripped down, but were fitted with all Government provided equipment. Aero wise, drag was reduced and the 1,425 (takeoff) hp Allison worked very well. A very similar version would later power most P-82 Twin Mustangs. It could manage 422 mph, not as fast as the P-51, but vastly quicker than the typical P-40.

I've seen photos and diagrams of the XP-40Q... It's nothingl ike the P-40N or K. It is longer, thinner, has a totally redesigned frame, a bubbletop canopy, etc.


I can't see how they were "based" on existing models at all. It must have been built from scratch, surely?

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Re: P-40B
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2011, 08:29:02 PM »
I've seen photos and diagrams of the XP-40Q... It's nothingl ike the P-40N or K. It is longer, thinner, has a totally redesigned frame, a bubbletop canopy, etc.


I can't see how they were "based" on existing models at all. It must have been built from scratch, surely?

As I said, they were conversions of two P-40Ks and a P-40N. Modifications were no more dramatic than that of converting a standard P-51B-1-NA into the XP-51D.
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Re: P-40B
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2011, 01:57:34 AM »
It all comes down to whom was giving whom the hand jobs, and the "envelope with XXX amounts of thousands of dollars" for the contracts.


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