Ta 152

[Stoney]

but who knows since it's an 3v!L @xi$ ride)
 

This kind of comment is so tiring...  I bet HTC loves seeing people allude that they purposefully malign axis aircraft.

[BnZs]

This kind of comment is so tiring...  I bet HTC loves seeing people allude that they purposefully malign axis aircraft.

We've got P-40s that are even slower than they originally were, a P-51 that can't turn inside of a Jug, Zekes that can dive with Corsairs and Hellcats, and a 109K that largely trounces the SpitXIV...but sure, HTC is biased against AXIS aircraft. 

[MK-84]

We've got P-40s that are even slower than they originally were, a P-51 that can't turn inside of a Jug, Zekes that can dive with Corsairs and Hellcats, and a 109K that largely trounces the SpitXIV...but sure, HTC is biased against AXIS aircraft. 

 
If that is true for you, I would suggesting visiting the training arena more often 
 

[STEELE]

This kind of comment is so tiring...  I bet HTC loves seeing people allude that they purposefully malign axis aircraft.

Do all intellectual types have no sense of humor?    (note the funny characters in    @x!$ and the :rolleyes)
I'd love to see the P40's redone, and I've never been outdove by a Zeke in anything, at least not past 300mph.  My only wishes are that the 190 A8 weight is looked into and to stop seeing 152's fall butt-first out of the skies->  

[BnZs]

Do all intellectual types have no sense of humor?    (note the funny characters in    @x!$ and the :rolleyes)
I'd love to see the P40's redone, and I've never been outdove by a Zeke in anything, at least not past 300mph.  My only wishes are that the 190 A8 weight is looked into and to stop seeing 152's fall butt-first out of the skies->  

In AHII, you still have some aileron roll and pitch control in a Zeke at speeds exceeding 350mph IAS.

And the 190A5 is 8-12mph too slow....

If there is any "pattern" to it at all, I kind of suspect that the plane modeling is inversely proportional to its popularity with Americans (the 190 is the most famous and "coolest" German plane here in popular lore, probably due to the 8th AF over Europe,  its probably the 109 in the U.K., due to the BoB.)

[Debrody]

We've got P-40s that are even slower than they originally were, a P-51 that can't turn inside of a Jug, Zekes that can dive with Corsairs and Hellcats, and a 109K that largely trounces the SpitXIV...but sure, HTC is biased against AXIS aircraft. 

Sir,
-never seen a zeek doing 550mph...
-you have problems against jugs? Or bumped into Juggler or Lepape too often?  : )
-109K vs spit14 is an even match...    idk what you want to say with it.
Our point is: the mossie is tail heavy, just like the corsair, not to talk about the p39 (!!), but none of them will send its tail forward instantly if you have more than two drops in the rear tank.
ZELVA   

[BnZs]

Sir,
-never seen a zeek doing 550mph...
-you have problems against jugs? Or bumped into Juggler or Lepape too often?  : )
-109K vs spit14 is an even match...    idk what you want to say with it.
Our point is: the mossie is tail heavy, just like the corsair, not to talk about the p39 (!!), but none of them will send its tail forward instantly if you have more than two drops in the rear tank.
ZELVA   

No I haven't seen a Zeke doing 550. I have, however, easily gone to to the 350mph IAS where a Zeke is supposed to loose control and be under threat of damage, without problems.

P-51 vs. Jug is an even match, in AHII. Does anyone seriously dispute this? Probable slight edge to Jug because of roll rate and firepower. This, despite the fact that both the Allies and Germans considered the 51 more formidable as a dogfigher.

Walter Wolfrum, a Luftwaffe ace with 137 victories, remembered of his encounters with American fighters that "the P-47 wasn't so bad because we could out turn and outclimb it, initially. The P-51 was something else.
http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/articles/germany/germany.htm

[Babalonian]

This kind of comment is so tiring...  I bet HTC loves seeing people allude that they purposefully malign axis aircraft.

And don't forget my personal favorite: the customers pushing for HTC to purposefully model each axis aircraft to the maximum limits of their respective model's performance envelopes.      (*cough*    D-11/D-13 puwty pwease, me ankle hump you long long time)

[STEELE]

In AHII, you still have some aileron roll and pitch control in a Zeke at speeds exceeding 350mph IAS.

And the 190A5 is 8-12mph too slow....

If there is any "pattern" to it at all, I kind of suspect that the plane modeling is inversely proportional to its popularity with Americans (the 190 is the most famous and "coolest" German plane here in popular lore, probably due to the 8th AF over Europe,  its probably the 109 in the U.K., due to the BoB.)

Yes, official wartime charts put the 190A5 at 352 at sea level (   )    at 1.42 ata, our A5 in AH does, what, 329 at sea level?

[Wmaker]

Yes, official wartime charts put the 190A5 at 352 at sea level (   )    at 1.42 ata, our A5 in AH does, what, 329 at sea level?

...but also climbs significanly faster than what the climb chart from those same tests (352mph) shows.

[save]

curious :
How does the 190a8 run with official wartime charts, compared with Aces High implementation of it ?

[Debrody]

Yes, official wartime charts put the 190A5 at 352 at sea level (   )    at 1.42 ata, our A5 in AH does, what, 329 at sea level?

335-ish...

[VonMessa]

curious :
How does the 190a8 run with official wartime charts, compared with Aces High implementation of it ?

You don't need your's to be any faster or better 

 

[BnZs]

...but also climbs significanly faster than what the climb chart from those same tests (352mph) shows.

Weights?

[Babalonian]

...but also climbs significanly faster than what the climb chart from those same tests (352mph) shows.

I've never seen any serious post on the 190 models in AH talk of an across the board upgrade, but that they need a review and most-likely adjustment.  So is your opinion in support or disagreement to the previous statements/wishes and intended purpose of this thread and the many others on the 190 in this forum?