Ta 152

[Stoney]

No Steele, I don't have a sense of humor--ask anybody...

So, what happens when the case is made for the 190A8 to have a higher top speed, and HTC still doesn't change it?

[kilo2]

No Steele, I don't have a sense of humor--ask anybody...

So, what happens when the case is made for the 190A8 to have a higher top speed, and HTC still doesn't change it?

Same thing that happens if they change it.

[Babalonian]

I wouldn't really call it a hypothesis, it's a reality (and a thorn in some of us 190 driver's paws).  The case has been made for the A-8 many times.  HTC simply chose and has modeled the heaviest version (+700 pounds that have been argued were never actually incorporated into the factory's proposed variant that HTC modeled from the factory specs), so that combined with the relative popularity of the aircraft in the arenas (what can we say, we're not as irrationally vocal about it as others and the majorities), and it's not really a critical fallacy in the game needing immediate action, as things go.  We just keep the topic(s) alive and wait, patiently.

[icepac]

The airplane's performance in many flight sims are like a 48 band equalizer.

Over time........one get's adjusted up which causes an imbalance, others are adjusted up to compensate which causes another imbalance which causes others to be adjusted up.

Pretty soon all sliders are higher than they belong.


This happens in SCCA racing.

We call it "rules creep".

[STEELE]

well, when 1 page of anecdotal story about how the brewster was supposed to be some super stable fighter was posted, BAM, it got fixed fairly quickly    (not to mention the a6m3 speed at hi alt, just to help make my point)                 , http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270213.0.html (the story also states that the rudder was basically toejam at lower speeds, which is not the case that I have seen in AH)we have been talking and providing proof about the A8 's weight prob and the A5's speed deficiency for months and months, at least tell us how much longer we will be waiting!     Please help us, it won't take very long! I'm sick of my squaddies quitting their subscriptions because the luft planes (some) don't do what they did IRL (3 in the last month or so, and they have books and books on the planes in question)
Also a certain member that has been dismissed has provided pages upon pages of proof about the 190's having combat flaps up to 300+ mph (his initials were C.R.U.M.P and search as I may, I cannot find all the many pages of proof he posted pertaining to the issue (among other issues pertaining to 190 series, they may have accidentally been erased, because when I go to click on his pages of info I get Error 404, page not found ) , I wish that flap issue, A8 weight problem, A5 speed deficiency, 152 rediculous stall, ect. would be addressed, bitte!  

[Krusty]

Steele you do an injustice to the topic at hand (152 issues) by introducing a luftwhiner conspiracy into the thread.

You and the others doing the same thing. This thread was (for all intents and purposes) killed by hijacking.

[STEELE]

OK, I'll give it to ya.  But, I bet there was a lot of pertinent 152 info in ol' whats-his-name's collection that may have helped us.   
Unfortunately, I cant find any of it

[Babalonian]

Steele you do an injustice to the topic at hand (152 issues) by introducing a luftwhiner conspiracy into the thread.

You and the others doing the same thing. This thread was (for all intents and purposes) killed by hijacking.

Sad but true, and I wouldn't label Steele the scape goat.  Point to me a serious 190/152 thread that goes on for its usual dozen pages of posts for months on end like a fine aging cheese that doesn't eventualy dwindle off in this BBS.

[Karnak]

STEELE,

It was not a single, haphazardly reported anecdote that got the B.239's stability changed.  It was submitted Finnish flight test documentation.

[Wmaker]

well, when 1 page of anecdotal story about how the brewster was supposed to be some super stable fighter was posted, BAM, it got fixed fairly quickly  

It's best not to talk about something you cant wrap your feeble brain around....as there's a change you'll look fairly stooopid doing it.

[Debrody]

It's best not to talk about something you cant wrap your feeble brain around....as there's a change you'll look fairly stooopid doing it.

Sirs, Shemp and Maker. Its not the right place to talk about the brewster, but IMO it OWNS every other early war ride (til late '40) left and right, makes the spit1s, 109Es, zeeks, hurricanes absolute chanceless. Why the RAF was using its poor spits when there were the uber brews that could outdive, outturn, outroll all the british planeset?
But one thing, we are luftwheenies with feeble brains. Show me one RAF-or USAAF-whiner, please.

[FLS]

Sirs, Shemp and Maker. Its not the right place to talk about the brewster, but IMO it OWNS every other early war ride (til late '40) left and right, makes the spit1s, 109Es, zeeks, hurricanes absolute chanceless. Why the RAF was using its poor spits when there were the uber brews that could outdive, outturn, outroll all the british planeset?
But one thing, we are luftwheenies with feeble brains. Show me one RAF-or USAAF-whiner, please.

When the RAF went into the hanger they found that the Finnish Brewster was not enabled at their fields.

[Wmaker]

But one thing, we are luftwheenies with feeble brains.

Yep, this is the problem. You don't have the faintest clue about the differences between AH arenas and the realities of the aircombat that took place during the real Battle of Britain for example. You for example are way too diletant to actually read the speed and climb charts of these fighters and then think about the fact that MA fights are near the deck here and BoB was fought in much higher altitudes.

The reason why you are squeling is that you just don't know what the hell you are talking about...and the same applies practically for every moron that cries that the Brewster is overmodelled.

[Debrody]

Thanks for the kind words, it feels good and i appreciate it. Ok speed is yours but show me a spitfire 1 doing 520mph and still being alive, able to get kills at 80mph, fully nose-up and from 800yards.
End of hijack.
This thread is about the 152.

[kilo2]

Yep, this is the problem. You don't have the faintest clue about the differences between AH arenas and the realities of the aircombat that took place during the real Battle of Britain for example. You for example are way too diletant to actually read the speed and climb charts of these fighters and then think about the fact that MA fights are near the deck here and BoB was fought in much higher altitudes.

The reason why you are squeling is that you just don't know what the hell you are talking about...and the same applies practically for every moron that cries that the Brewster is overmodelled.

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You know what I have never reported anyone ever but that changed today. I will own up to the fact I reported you here and put a face on it. Whenever the Brewster comes up you act like a tool.