Author Topic: Map room capture in text buffer  (Read 1375 times)

Offline DeadStik

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Map room capture in text buffer
« on: June 02, 2011, 10:53:58 AM »
I humbly request that if a player destroys a map room and captures a field/port, that upon landing this achievement is broadcast system-wide in the same fashion of landing kills and damage. Example:

SYSTEM: DeadStik landed 1 Map Room Capture in a C47A of One Man Squad.

The argument might arise that we don't "need" this and it is merely for "lights and glory." To this I say, "yes, you're right." But so what? Way back in the day we didn't land "damage" in bombers, but they added that. Now buff pilots get credit for the arduous task of bombing runs. Why shouldn't a goon/GV troop driver get credit for a successful field capture? The transportation of troops is a very selfless, dangerous and often tedious job. These people deserve some recognition for their contribution, which is in my opinion much more valuable than landing 10 kills in one sortie.

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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 10:59:14 AM »
Essentially the person who brings troops hardly does any work.

They don't help destroy the town, keep the ack down, spot enemy GVs, or provide CAP.

Some captures are worth a name in lights, yes, but as I see it, most are not. Why bother.
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 11:17:57 AM »
+1   


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Offline DeadStik

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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 11:37:28 AM »
Essentially the person who brings troops hardly does any work.

They don't help destroy the town, keep the ack down, spot enemy GVs, or provide CAP.

This is a good point, but I tend to disagree. When given a mission, how often are you inclined to fly the goon? I say it is plenty of work in the sense that this person is volunteering his/her time to fly/drive a defenseless machine in enemy territory. I agree that there are some captures which are very easy and undeserving of "name in lights." But I could also bring to mind that proxy kills require "no work" (usually), yet are still rewarded with a name in lights.
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 11:58:48 AM »
Perhaps (just a guess) that it's because a base capture is by and large a group/team achievement.  The goon driver get's the capture that's true but without the ordnance to knock down the town, and other players to suppress the defenders it's not going to happen.
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 12:00:52 PM »
Perhaps (just a guess) that it's because a base capture is by and large a group/team achievement.  The goon driver get's the capture that's true but without the ordnance to knock down the town, and other players to suppress the defenders it's not going to happen.

This sounds about right to me.
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 12:11:37 PM »
Perhaps (just a guess) that it's because a base capture is by and large a group/team achievement.  The goon driver get's the capture that's true but without the ordnance to knock down the town, and other players to suppress the defenders it's not going to happen.

But those other players who bring the ord and cap a field can get their name in lights for their actions, why not the bus driver also? Name in lights for a field capture might lead to more bus driver volunteers.  (don't really care either way on this one, just playing devil's advocate)
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 12:32:18 PM »
Thought about it, but guess I vote -1.

Yesterday I noticed a CV close to bad guy base. I jumped into an 8" and started working on the town. I was alone. Just before the town went white flag, a friendly showed up in a Mossie and took down the few guns I had not gotten with the 8". The town went white flag and I put the word out. I took off to help provide cap and one other person took off to help with the cap. There were 4 or five others that jumped into an LVT to run troops in. Now I don't care for myself, I don't often run troops, but the difficult work was done when the LVT guys showed up.
Whomever drops the troops gets the perks, that should be enough.
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 12:33:31 PM »
But those other players who bring the ord and cap a field can get their name in lights for their actions,

Do they?

If you're not in a bomber or kill anyone, just kill buildings, no name in lights.

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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 12:40:12 PM »
But those other players who bring the ord and cap a field can get their name in lights for their actions, why not the bus driver also? Name in lights for a field capture might lead to more bus driver volunteers.  (don't really care either way on this one, just playing devil's advocate)

Again my guess is that bombing and shooting down planes can be an individual act/accomplishment.  I can take off and go bomb something or shoot down a couple people and land without the assistance from any one else.  A base capture while possible to pull off alone is much more often a group accomplishment and the group/country get's the Kudos via a system message rather than giving credit to one particular player.  

I don't directly participate in field captures very often, and I don't really have an opinion on whether goon drivers should get a separate system message when the field gets captured or not, just speculating on why it is the way it is currently.  I could be wrong, and often am. :)

 
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 01:00:47 PM »
Do they?

If you're not in a bomber or kill anyone, just kill buildings, no name in lights.

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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 01:52:50 PM »
I think soulyss found the right answer in this one
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 04:24:48 PM »
Adding a little twist to this...  I think it'd be ok to give the bus driver a "name in lights" on a successful landing only.  Yeah, there's going to be folks that don't do much in the take and just run a Goon or M3, but I see that as no different than someone showing up in a fighter after the vulch light is lit.  More often than not, running the Goon is a boring, yet critical role to play.  May as well throw a dog a bone.

+1 for giving the Bus drivers credit.
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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 06:50:14 PM »
+1

I have never flown a goon and never will, but for the guys that really enjoy doing this I think it would be a good thing.

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Re: Map room capture in text buffer
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2011, 07:22:36 PM »
If you get rid of the one man squads, then the prblem is solved. If you get rid of them pasted their two week period then make squads a requirement problem solved. lastly only allow a squad name in lights vs. an individual name in lights problem solved.
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