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Offline Klam

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vox and black boxes
« on: June 06, 2011, 05:23:10 AM »
All runs normal until someone uses vox, then planes turn to black boxes.
Range or channel vox has same effect.
1 min or so later, if vox is unused, the graphics return to normal.
Any ideas?


System Information
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Time of this report: 6/6/2011, 11:18:55
       Machine name: WARREN-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.110408-1633)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Packard Bell
       System Model: imedia S3810
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU         550  @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3000MB RAM
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        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
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     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 64bit Unicode

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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Offline The Fugitive

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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 08:28:59 AM »
Ya, get a real graphics card!  :)

Onboard Intel graphics are weak and don't do 3d well.  On top of that, the CPU and ram share resources with that graphics. So when someone uses vox your computer tries to do too much and it drops out some of the video to make room, hence the boxes. Once the CPU has cleared up the other tasks it now can add back your video so it does. That's why it come back.

Aces High isn't like "other games" like WOW and such. It takes a decent computer with a decent video card to run it smoothly.
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 09:14:09 AM »
fugitive speaks the troof, especially on your system...intel graphics chipset not good and your system is using cpu as well as system ram to augment the graphics hardware.


System Manufacturer: Packard Bell

 :O  :huh  :headscratch: i thought packard hell went out of business years ago...they were only marginally better than radio shack tandy systems.

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Offline Klam

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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 09:46:23 AM »
ok thanks.  will get a seperate vid card
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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 09:48:51 AM »
Be sure you can disable the onboard video chip before you invest in another graphics card.  Some manufacturers do not allow the onboard video chips to be disabled.

Also, be sure you have a PCI-E expansion slot for an add in graphics card as some manufacturers remove them from the motherboards to force new computer purchases instead of upgrades to an existing one.
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Offline Klam

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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 11:58:53 AM »
Could you tell me how I test if I can disable the onboard video.

 
Quote from: Skuzzy on June 06, 2011, 09:48:51 AM
Also, be sure you have a PCI-E expansion slot for an add in graphics card as some manufacturers remove them from the motherboards to force new computer purchases instead of upgrades to an existing one.


Nice of them....

I think I'm ok with that, there are some slots free that I can use.

Also I have an old NVIDEA GForce fx5200 card but it's  only 256mb.  Might be too old to use.  Think I will shop about for one.  Any recommends?
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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 12:11:15 PM »
if you don't want to have to replace that power supply too...oem is probably 250-300 watts...grab an ati graphics card. someone in the hardware/software section posted an ati card he bought for a friend who had a low wattage psu in a slim desktop...can't find it but i think it was a 4650 or something.
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Offline Tigger29

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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 01:38:43 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on June 06, 2011, 09:14:09 AM
:O  :huh  :headscratch: i thought packard hell went out of business years ago...they were only marginally better than radio shack tandy systems.

Looks like a UK company "revived" the brand:

http://www.packardbell.co.uk/pb/en/GB/content/serie/imedia
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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 02:12:00 PM »
From what I have seen online, the case is very small and the power supply of only 240W. So even if you can disable the onboard video and have a slot available for a dedicated video card, you have to find a card that will physically fit inside the case and that does not use much power. I think you may be struggling to find a working solution. Even the power supply is likely to be a physically small unit, not easily upgraded.

I would suggest you check yours to see what your power supply is actually rated at and post here for further advice.
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Re: vox and black boxes
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 02:27:38 PM »
In the meantime, make sure you set the "Maximum Texture Size" in the games "Video Settings" to 128.  The game should shut off all the other advanced graphic options.
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