New Car!

[Rob52240]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evo.

Last time I checked they're available with up to 400HP.

Heres a video of jeremy clarkson racing the top end Lamborghini in one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ees2aZcDUn8

James May racing a bobsled in one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKgaXwO8Ao

And Jeremy again racing the British army's new toys in one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5rRY2ICT4k&playnext=1&list=PL4C3E254B9AA47D94

[icepac]

Cape mentioned tire compound and is correct.

Tire compound is king when it comes to ice driving.

I drove a 280zx turbo home from work on a day that freezing rain froze on the ground to the point that people were sliding down hills sideways after they tried to turn around but my car, which is known for being the worst possible ice car, drove easily with amazing traction.

I had put some barely dot legal race tires from a SCCA improved touring 240z on it just to see how the wheels looked and the super soft compound of the nearly completely bald tires gripped amazingly.

[CAP1]

I've done that plenty of times. But here in finland we use studded winter tires

It's true that studless tires lose almost all traction on smooth ice surface. Smooth ice alone is not that bad yet but if there's a bit of melted water on top it's slide time. That's why studded tires are so popular down here - and they have to side effect of roughing the ice for studless drivers, too. But boy do they eat up asphalt.

 i wish we were still allowed studded tires here in nj. they're only allowed a couple months of the year......

[CAP1]

Cape mentioned tire compound and is correct.

Tire compound is king when it comes to ice driving.

I drove a 280zx turbo home from work on a day that freezing rain froze on the ground to the point that people were sliding down hills sideways after they tried to turn around but my car, which is known for being the worst possible ice car, drove easily with amazing traction.

I had put some barely dot legal race tires from a SCCA improved touring 240z on it just to see how the wheels looked and the super soft compound of the nearly completely bald tires gripped amazingly.

 funny you say that.......when i still had my 12 second mustang, it sucked in the snow.......except on the bfgoodrich drag radials. in snow, and rain, those things made that car a whole new animal.

[Rob52240]

Cape mentioned tire compound and is correct.

Tire compound is king when it comes to ice driving.

I drove a 280zx turbo home from work on a day that freezing rain froze on the ground to the point that people were sliding down hills sideways after they tried to turn around but my car, which is known for being the worst possible ice car, drove easily with amazing traction.

I had put some barely dot legal race tires from a SCCA improved touring 240z on it just to see how the wheels looked and the super soft compound of the nearly completely bald tires gripped amazingly.

You show me a compound that grips ice and I'll mow the lawn in my wife's best sunday dress. 

The only tires that grip on actual ice are Studded ones or a set with chains.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

i wish we were still allowed studded tires here in nj. they're only allowed a couple months of the year......

Same here. Every November it's tire change time and then again around april. Most people have 2 sets of wheels and tires. I'm still driving on my m+s because they were already so worn out that I couldn't use them another winter anyway. The Jeep eats rubber quite a lot.

[CAP1]

You show me a compound that grips ice and I'll mow the lawn in my wife's best sunday dress. 

The only tires that grip on actual ice are Studded ones or a set with chains.

 those blizzaks i mentioned.........a local firestone rep took a couple cars.....one rwd, one fwd about 6 or 7 years ago....and drove them both on hockey rinks. easily. 

[VonMessa]

With 376 foot pounds of torque at 1700rpm that thing comes handy.

For the masses, I guess it fits perfectly

Retarded engine timing for retarded drivers...       

[Shuffler]

sounds nice. how much hauling you do with her?

22' goose and a 28' goose both floats and a 24' goose lowboy for the 4WDs and tractor. I've had pipe, plate, cones, reactors.... you name it, on the trailers. lol

It sits to high for the 32' Holiday Rambler so that is pulled with a ford 2500 that sits stock.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

For the masses, I guess it fits perfectly

Retarded engine timing for retarded drivers...       

Uhh you might want to read up on turbodiesels a little rofl.

[Shuffler]

On the new multicammed engines the computer phases the cams for smooth idle and adjusts as needed for performance... be it gas mileage or hp.

[CAP1]

On the new multicammed engines the computer phases the cams for smooth idle and adjusts as needed for performance... be it gas mileage or hp.

 and the computer will also close the throttle when it deems necessary.

[VonMessa]

Uhh you might want to read up on turbodiesels a little rofl.

I wasn't referring to your vehicle, specifically.

My father has been the service manager at an International dealer for ~30 years.  I was raised in a Diesel shop 

I meant the run-of-the-mill/average Joe vehicles around here.  Remember, Diesel's haven't enjoyed the popularity in the States that they have elsewhere.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I wasn't referring to your vehicle, specifically.

My father has been the service manager at an International dealer for ~30 years.  I was raised in a Diesel shop 

I meant the run-of-the-mill/average Joe vehicles around here.  Remember, Diesel's haven't enjoyed the popularity in the States that they have elsewhere.

I don't consider traction control a bad thing or limiting, far from it. It's a comfort feature - you don't have to constantly think about throttle, just apply it. 8 hours on the wheel, on ice is tough enough without extra hassle.

[VonMessa]

I don't consider traction control a bad thing or limiting, far from it. It's a comfort feature - you don't have to constantly think about throttle, just apply it. 8 hours on the wheel, on ice is tough enough without extra hassle.

It's nice to have if you already know how to drive in bad weather.

It is a dangerous crutch for those with no clue.  Again, I will cite a false sense of security it gives about road conditions to the inexperienced.

Being able  to "go" better on snow/ice, does NOT go hand-in-hand with being able to "stop" in the same conditions.

As long as they stay away from me, while I'm on the road I don't care.

I made plenty of cash last winter winching those pistonheads out of ditches