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Re: New Car!
« Reply #240 on: June 09, 2011, 01:01:39 PM »
If your vehicle gives off under 90mg of CO2 per mile  it free on the roads.

I need a car for some of my work . I ride to where I work as a grounds man  but I need a car for my window cleaning and bicycle repairs .  what is frustrating in the UK is the number on mums driving their kids  to school that live less than 2 miles from the school ect.

 BUT WHY are they taxing something that is not bad?
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #241 on: June 09, 2011, 01:21:57 PM »
Folks, lets not get into asking questions that will lead to a political discussion.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #242 on: June 09, 2011, 01:29:53 PM »
Our old Honda Accord has nearly gotten my mom hurt on the highways a few times now, and the plan is to buy a sedan with AWD.  We know next to nothing about cars, and would like to get some opinions on pitfalls to avoid when shopping around.  Our current pick is an Audi A4, but perhaps you guys know something we don't.

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I would point out, Penguy, that we here at Ford adopted a state of the art Haldex AWD system a few years back. It now features in just about every major vehicle line we have. For example, you could get an Edge or Flex in AWD, or a Fusion Sport (with the 3.5L, natch - surprising performance for a Fusion) with AWD, or an MkT, MkX, MkZ, or MkS - all featuring the same excellently seamless Haldex awd system (scaled, of course, per application).

I note we have a Subie advocate here and, yeah, my wife's into 'em, but I note that our initial quality is better. I also note, on the downside, that we do not yet have the Haldex system in our excellent new 2012 Eu-common Focus (it replaces the unloved and krappy old North American Focus) but it MAY be coming.

One advantage we might hold for you: You know me.  We've traded enough messages that I feel I can ethically call you someone I know. PM me if you want more info.

So let the flaming of Ford begin - but remember, we're not sucking up in Washington - we're out here making money as the best domestic manufacturer.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #243 on: June 09, 2011, 01:32:20 PM »
I would point out, Penguy, that we here at Ford adopted a state of the art Haldex AWD system a few years back. It now features in just about every major vehicle line we have. For example, you could get an Edge or Flex in AWD, or a Fusion Sport (with the 3.5L, natch - surprising performance for a Fusion) with AWD, or an MkT, MkX, MkZ, or MkS - all featuring the same excellently seamless Haldex awd system (scaled, of course, per application).

I note we have a Subie advocate here and, yeah, my wife's into 'em, but I note that our initial quality is better. I also note, on the downside, that we do not yet have the Haldex system in our excellent new 2012 Eu-common Focus (it replaces the unloved and krappy old North American Focus) but it MAY be coming.

One advantage we might hold for you: You know me.  We've traded enough messages that I feel I can ethically call you someone I know. PM me if you want more info.

So let the flaming of Ford begin - but remember, we're not sucking up in Washington - we're out here making money as the best domestic manufacturer.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. :D

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Re: New Car!
« Reply #244 on: June 09, 2011, 02:01:22 PM »
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. :D

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Oh really? That "grease" is a poison pill for GM. They've lost creative control and are already taking debt onto the balance sheet again. We made $2.6B worth of "grease" in Q1. How'd GM do absent duplicitous accounting practices? Check share figures lately? I've got a mole in Crapsler. You don't EVEN want to know their "best practices".

I'm serious here - I'll help you out as a corporate friend. I'd reocmmend you drive one. Go see what we've got and compare it to any of 'em. Then talk to me.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #245 on: June 09, 2011, 02:01:52 PM »
Folks, lets not get into asking questions that will lead to a political discussion.

sorry.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #246 on: June 09, 2011, 02:14:41 PM »

So let the flaming of Ford begin - but remember, we're not sucking up in Washington - we're out here making money as the best domestic manufacturer.

I beg to differ. :D
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #247 on: June 09, 2011, 02:16:31 PM »
No matter what you think of Ford, you have to give them credit.  They have done what no other American car company could and they did it without any bailout money.  Seems to me they are taking care of business.

It also looks like they might be having some fun while they are at it.  They have earned the right to be proud of thier accomplishments.

Kudos, and keep it up.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #248 on: June 09, 2011, 02:25:05 PM »
VED was setup to help pay for the motorways  over here in bankrupt blighty .  it goes up in stages low carbon  $60 a year  $130 $240  and much much higher for real gas guzzlers.  it does mean other taxes are a little lower.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #249 on: June 09, 2011, 02:54:19 PM »
VED was setup to help pay for the motorways  over here in bankrupt blighty .  it goes up in stages low carbon  $60 a year  $130 $240  and much much higher for real gas guzzlers.  it does mean other taxes are a little lower.

 i really wish i could type here what i think about co2 taxes, etc....but i realize the skuzzmeister has a hard enough job without us going loopy in here...and i don't want a vacation from here......this place(as scary as it may seem) helps me retain my sanity.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #250 on: June 09, 2011, 02:56:07 PM »
No matter what you think of Ford, you have to give them credit.  They have done what no other American car company could and they did it without any bailout money.  Seems to me they are taking care of business.

It also looks like they might be having some fun while they are at it.  They have earned the right to be proud of thier accomplishments.

Kudos, and keep it up.

Only because my company wasn't smart enough to promote Alan Mulally, who was a native home grown Boeing Engineer, and one of the brightest, most sincere guys I'd ever met. He left for Ford when Boeing gave McNerny the job. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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Re: New Car!
« Reply #251 on: June 09, 2011, 02:59:59 PM »
Only because my company wasn't smart enough to promote Alan Mulally, who was a native home grown Boeing Engineer, and one of the brightest, most sincere guys I'd ever met. He left for Ford when Boeing gave McNerny the job. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

 i wouldn't doubt that ford gave him a pretty good offer to come over too.
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Re: New Car!
« Reply #252 on: June 09, 2011, 03:03:37 PM »
No matter what you think of Ford, you have to give them credit.  They have done what no other American car company could and they did it without any bailout money.  Seems to me they are taking care of business.

It also looks like they might be having some fun while they are at it.  They have earned the right to be proud of thier accomplishments.

Kudos, and keep it up.

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Re: New Car!
« Reply #253 on: June 09, 2011, 03:08:21 PM »
Oh really? That "grease" is a poison pill for GM. They've lost creative control and are already taking debt onto the balance sheet again. We made $2.6B worth of "grease" in Q1. How'd GM do absent duplicitous accounting practices? Check share figures lately? I've got a mole in Crapsler. You don't EVEN want to know their "best practices".

I'm serious here - I'll help you out as a corporate friend. I'd reocmmend you drive one. Go see what we've got and compare it to any of 'em. Then talk to me.

I meant that the company that advertises well gets many customers, and your recommendation was eloquent.I didn't mean to insult Ford! :eek:

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Re: New Car!
« Reply #254 on: June 09, 2011, 03:29:56 PM »
No matter what you think of Ford, you have to give them credit.  They have done what no other American car company could and they did it without any bailout money.  Seems to me they are taking care of business.

It also looks like they might be having some fun while they are at it.  They have earned the right to be proud of thier accomplishments.

Kudos, and keep it up.

 I heard that Mazda has split from Ford,thats a shame I thought they did some good work together. We've been Ford people for years but in the early 90's the depreciation on new models was just too much.  The same couldn't be said about toyota and honda,normally I'd get a 2 year old car and let someone else eat the depreciation but when it came to the H&T cars you were better off buying new as a 2 YO car hadn't lost anymore than 15% unless it had outrageous milage on it.

  That said I think it's time to revisit to old found on road dead's.I'm looking for an AWD crosover type,any suggestions?


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