felt bad for a corvette driver today

[TequilaChaser]

No im talking the original SS.....I wanted to smack the guy in the face...

-BigBOBCH

oh, an older early 60's Super Sport Impala ?

[CAP1]

when you say SS are you refering to one of those New SS Camaro's? like 2010/2011?   Chevy are actually putting them out from the factory in a neon green kind of color .... looks sickening really........ not as good as the old plum crazy purple or banana yellow color days of the MOPARS


what would be funny CAP, is if Grandma pulled up in her CTS-V Sport Wagon  that is sporting a supercharged 6.2-liter V8 that delivers 556 hp and 551 pound-feet of torque, linked to a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission  and asked them both if they wanted to race for pinks....... lol

 when i hear someone say "SS", i think of the 60's chevelles. the only thing i think of when someone references a newer camaro, is an australian car built in canada by a company that took a bailout, and used some of that money to save those 3,000 jobs at the canadian plant that builds the camaros, rather than bringing what was once a great american muscle car back home.

 and yea it would......'cause with any sort of traction, the cobra dude would be walking away with a new vette and a new cadi.  

 those cobras i think weigh in around 2600 to 2800 pounds. that combined with 500hp, and figuring on 4.10 gears......possibly 4.56 gears.....that should put that cobra in the low 11's, high 10's.

[Reaper90]

Anyone who would race an "off the shelf" production car against any kind of hot "kit car" is an idiot and deserves to loose. Of course a sub 3000 pound Cobra will whip a Vette, Caddy, etc.

You mentioned FFR, heck, my dream car is to build a GTM....mid engined LSX Chevy motor in under 2300 pound car with Porsche G50 transaxle... it'll murder just about anything you will ever run into on the street.





Car and Driver tested an LS7 powered one and got 3.0 sec 0-60 and 6.6 sec 0-100 times. 11.0 sec 1/4 mile @132mph... on street tires.

Sports cars built on an assembly line for sale to the general public are gonna be loaded up with a couple thousand pounds of extra weight just by design... Heck, Honda Civics today weight as much as mid '80's Corvettes. Cars today are bigger, heavier, and have a lot more crap that weighs 'em down... Cobras, GTMs, other kit cars..... bare bones, just a frame, a body, and a big honking engine. What more do you really need?

[Tyrannis]

all day everyday 

[Skuzzy]

CAP, the Factory Five, with a small block Ford and T56 Magnum, and 9" Ford rear end weighs in at about 2250 pounds.  The FF is one of the lighter Cobra kits around.  The body shell is pretty thin, compared to some other kits.  The driver should be about 5'8" tall, or shorter, to be comfortable in one.  Smallish feet are also a plus.

The Lonestar I will be building is one of the heavier kits at 2450 pounds wet.

Anyone interested in building a kit needs to find the local club and meet with them.  For the most part, the Cobra owners are a pretty laid back group.  Happy to give a ride, and some will allow you to drive, once they get comfortable with you.

There are many high quality kits out there today.  That is not to say it is easy to build.  It can be very frustrating.  To reduce those types of issues, always get to know the folks in the local Cobra Clubs.  They will always be willing to share the "gotchas" they went through with thier builds.

Always take your time.  Be patient.  It can take years to complete a car.  Be realistic.  Do not go into this thinking it is a simple matter of connecting the dots.  Far from it.  No matter what you think you can build it for, it will end up costing twice that amount.  A $20,000 kit will usually end up costing about $45,000.00 to complete.  Oh, and they are never completed.

[MiloMorai]

Any opinions on the Everett-Morrison Cobras out of La Porte Texas?

[CAP1]

CAP, the Factory Five, with a small block Ford and T56 Magnum, and 9" Ford rear end weighs in at about 2250 pounds.  The FF is one of the lighter Cobra kits around.  The body shell is pretty thin, compared to some other kits.  The driver should be about 5'8" tall, or shorter, to be comfortable in one.  Smallish feet are also a plus.

The Lonestar I will be building is one of the heavier kits at 2450 pounds wet.

Anyone interested in building a kit needs to find the local club and meet with them.  For the most part, the Cobra owners are a pretty laid back group.  Happy to give a ride, and some will allow you to drive, once they get comfortable with you.

There are many high quality kits out there today.  That is not to say it is easy to build.  It can be very frustrating.  To reduce those types of issues, always get to know the folks in the local Cobra Clubs.  They will always be willing to share the "gotchas" they went through with thier builds.

Always take your time.  Be patient.  It can take years to complete a car.  Be realistic.  Do not go into this thinking it is a simple matter of connecting the dots.  Far from it.  No matter what you think you can build it for, it will end up costing twice that amount.  A $20,000 kit will usually end up costing about $45,000.00 to complete.  Oh, and they are never completed.

holy crap!! i didn't think they were that light! that'd put him into the mid/low 10's with 500hp.

 when i looked underneatrh, it looked like an 8.8 under there.

 i'm gonna get pics when he comes in again.

[Skuzzy]

Most of the kits will use either the 8.8" or 9".  I prefer the 9", even though it is heavier.  A lot more options for it.

Any opinions on the Everett-Morrison Cobras out of La Porte Texas?

The EM brand has been around a long time.  It has changed hands a couple of times and has recently been purchased, again.  The rollers are considered high quality.

Superperformance dominates the roller market today.  Hurricane is coming on strong.  Backdraft and EM are both quality builds as well.

Again, I stress this, find a local Cobra Club and go sit in the cars.  Talk to the owners.  No owner will put down thier own car, but they will be honest about any issues they have had.

Also check out http://www.cobracountry.com/ for used Cobras, if you are interested in a roller.  Most used Cobras are low mileage cars and the owners tend to take very good care of them.  This will get you past, the often troublesome issue of, license and registration for a new build.

[icepac]

Thomas Magnum would need the viper with the removable roof.

[Shuffler]

I felt sorry for a guy driving an SS yesterday, why you ask? Because the idiot destroyed it by painting it neon green and like 30 inch rims.....

-BigBOBCH

Bet the green was Synergy green which you can get on any camaro this year. The SS comes with 21" and can be dropped and fit with up to 24" and look great. The 30" is a wagon wheel on the car and would look stupid.


My Daughter's camaro is the actual Synergy Package that was a limited edition last year and only available for a few months.

Any opinions on the Everett-Morrison Cobras out of La Porte Texas?

I have not heard of them. I am sitting in Deer Park right now.

[eagl]

The people I feel sorry for are the ones who read the original post and thought "mustang?!"

[CAP1]

The people I feel sorry for are the ones who read the original post and thought "mustang?!"

 i kinda do too, but can almost understand it, as factory five tends to sell their kits on a basis of being able to take a wrecked fox chassis mustang, and transfer everything over to complete the car.

[sntslilhlpr6601]

I felt bad for the driver of a new edge Roush Mustang a while back.

Guy saw me sitting at a red light as he was taking a left across from me. He decided to lay into it, and it must've been the first time he'd ever done so because he gave it way too much throttle, lost it and it drove itself right over the curbed median.

I cringed a bit when the body kit crunched on the curbs. 

That little maneuver put him on the other side of the street and he had to drive past me to get away. He looked a little embarrassed to say the least. 

I can totally see myself doing that same thing if I'm ever behind the wheel of a Cobra, though. Those things must be a handful.

[Skuzzy]

You have to respect that throttle pedal in a Cobra.  I got an hour of seat time at the last roundup and I did fine.  I only slung the rear out a few inches once.  Just FYI:  Trailing throttle, in a turn, is a huge no-no.

I did get a little tunnel vision, during the straight away acceleration run to speed.  Man, that was fun.

[icepac]

We have a factory 5 cobra at work and it is nowhere near half the car the lone star cars are.

I does have a 347 with six speed the rest of the car seems to have been made in china.

It also has the 4 shock rear end from the early fox body mustangs.