HTC; A kind request...

[Major Biggles]

Would you consider perhaps changing some of the plane ENYs now that the single MA has returned. There are some planes that really deserve an ENY higher than 40. Would be nice to see a return to the 60 ENY level for some planes. I really feel it would provide a little more incentive to fly earlier war planes. Also, there are some light bombers that could do with a higher OBJ level...

Pretty please?

[Major Biggles]

Nobody agrees/disagrees?

[Sunka]

I hate eny values and wish their was not any at all...i often fly the p 40 and the Fm's in late war,i think most of the best in the game would tell you that its not the plane but the driver.

[Lusche]

think most of the best in the game would tell you that its not the plane but the driver.

And they are wrong

[Sunka]

I take down a lot of flyer's in way better planes then i fly all night long.Why is this?
EDIT....Non the less though,i still don't like Eny in any way ...or how kill shooter works in AH ,i know not all agree with me that's fine,I'm what one might call a purest

[Lusche]

I take down a lot of flyers in way better planes then i fly all night long.Why is this?

I didn't say the pilot doesn't matter. But "Pilot not plane" is as wrong as "Plane, not pilot"

[Sunka]

I didn't say the pilot doesn't matter. But "Pilot not plane" is as wrong as "Plane, not pilot"

Well i certainly think if you take two pilots of the same caliber and put one in a p 40 and one in a 190 the 190 stick will win hands down every time.

[Karnak]

A better pilot can make better maneuver choices for his given aircraft, but he is just as limited by that aircraft's limits as any other pilot and against something like a P-40 all a normal pilot in something like an La-7 needs to know is what game to not play and it forces the better pilot into pure defense.  He may still survive, but as long as the La-7 doesn't play the P-40E's game, the P-40E will never kill the La-7.  A great number of players in this game fail to fly that way and thus many an La-7 has fallen to a P-40E.

[Sunka]

A better pilot can make better maneuver choices for his given aircraft, but he is just as limited by that aircraft's limits as any other pilot and against something like a P-40 all a normal pilot in something like an La-7 needs to know is what game to not play and it forces the better pilot into pure defense.  He may still survive, but as long as the La-7 doesn't play the P-40E's game, the P-40E will never kill the La-7.  A great number of players in this game fail to fly that way and thus many an La-7 has fallen to a P-40E.

One of the first things MtnMan taught me when i first started training was the guy with the faster ride (if smart) can always control the fight.If he is smart enough..(or skilled enough)

[Lusche]

Well i certainly think if you take two pilots of the same caliber and put one in a p 40 and one in a 190 the 190 stick will win hands down every time.

Oh... that depends on a lot of variables. Two good pilots: probably, as the 190 is the faster plane. But then we haven't defined the parameters of the combat and the combat environment.
With two very new players, the outcome is even less certain, as the 190 pilot may have a hard time to get a weapons solution, with two pilots not being able to utilize their respective plane's strengths, the result will be somewhat more random.



Plane are just tools. Pilots acre craftsmen. Skill can overcome limits of cheap, crappy tools, but only so much. On there other hand, some tools are excellent, but require a big deal of experience and knowledge to be used correctly, those tools are wasted in the hand of a beginner.
So in the end it's "Pilot+Plane", with a lot of environmental variables thrown in.

[Sunka]

Oh... that depends on a lot of variables. Two good pilots: probably, as the 190 is the faster plane. But then we haven't defined the parameters of the combat and the combat environment.
With two very new players, the outcome is even less certain, as the 190 pilot may have a hard time to get a weapons solution, with two pilots not being able to utilize their respective plane's strengths, the result will be somewhat more random.



Plane are just tools. Pilots acre craftsmen. Skill can overcome limits of cheap, crappy tools, but only so much. On there other hand, some tools are excellent, but require a big deal of experience and knowledge to be used correctly, those tools are wasted in the hand of a beginner.
So in the end it's "Pilot+Plane", with a lot of environmental variables thrown in.

Agreed,but i would much rather fight a new guy in any (uber) plane then fight say you in an EW plane (if i want to win) as opposed to just having a good fight.

[Lusche]

Agreed,but i would much rather fight a new guy in any (uber) plane then fight say you in and EW plane (if i want to win) as opposed to just having a good fight.

I have very good success in EW planes in LW arena. But that's rarely result of a "fair fight", particularly not 1v1. Even a player of average skill can at least deny me the kill in such a situation, using the speed of his plane to control the situation, even if he can't kill me. You do not need much skill for that, only some common sense. In 1v1 situations I generally only kill those really dumb enough to fight me on MY terms (P-51 trying to flat turn with my Hurri I for example)

The majority of my kills though, comes from creating and exploiting very advantageous situations.

[Sunka]

I have very good success in EW planes in LW arena. But that's rarely result of a "fair fight", particularly not 1v1. Even a player of average skill can at least deny me the kill in such a situation, using the speed of his plane to control the situation, even if he can't kill me. You do not need much skill for that, only some common sense. In 1v1 situations I generally only kill those really dumb enough to fight me on MY terms (P-51 trying to flat turn with my Hurri I for example)

The majority of my kills though, comes from creating and exploiting very advantageous situations.

Well then i (think) you just made my point for me,its the pilot not the plane.

[Lusche]

Well then i (think) you just made my point for me,its the pilot not the plane.

 

[Sunka]

lol i just went back and read the last of your statements as per your face ,and it is late here,but i stand by my statement ...i think