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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2011, 12:03:04 AM »
lol i just went back and read the last of your statements as per your face ,and it is late here,but i stand by my statement ...i think   :rolleyes:
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Well, if it's not the plane... why is my K/D Tempest, K4, Spit XVI and so on so much better than in 109F or Hurri I?
Why do planes like the P-39D or P-40B generally have an abysmal k/d? Are they flown only by the incompetent? (And if yes - why?)
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2011, 12:18:26 AM »
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Well, if it's not the plane... why is my K/D Tempest, K4, Spit XVI and so on so much better than in 109F or Hurri I?
Why do planes like the P-39D or P-40B generally have an abysmal k/d? Are they flown only by the incompetent? (And if yes - why?)

Well you give a better stick a better bird and he will do ..well better.But if i put you in a Hurri I and a player that has been playing for less then a year in any LW bird and one of you (must die) i will put my money on you.

I don't think its (only) the pilot that matters,as you said their are all kinds of variables,but i would much rather be the me of today in an FM2 then the me of three years ago in a p 51.So maybe in my mind its like  70% pilot 30% plane or some stuff..I'm not a numbers guy. :neener:
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2011, 12:32:34 AM »
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Nobody agrees/disagrees?

What's there to agree/disagree on?  You asked HTC to change something, but were not specific about what it was you wanted changed.  Best they can do is change what they think you meant, probably be wrong because they have it where they think it should be, and have you come back and say that's not what you meant.

Try asking the question again and put something more specific behind it. 
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2011, 12:37:06 AM »
What's there to agree/disagree on?  You asked HTC to change something, but were not specific about what it was you wanted changed. 

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I thought it was pretty clear. He wants to widen the ENY spectrum up to 60 again like it used tobe, instead of stopping at 40 for planes like the Spit I.
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2011, 02:02:14 AM »
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I thought it was pretty clear. He wants to widen the ENY spectrum up to 60 again like it used tobe, instead of stopping at 40 for planes like the Spit I.

Bang on what I meant. Make it so that there is an incentive to fly them in the MA (that incentive being the greater number of perks you can earn per kill). This is not a request about the ENY system in general, it's a request that some of the ENY values be changed to that there is a reason to fly the 'crappy' rides against the late war rides.

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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2011, 04:22:06 PM »
Bang on what I meant. Make it so that there is an incentive to fly them in the MA (that incentive being the greater number of perks you can earn per kill). This is not a request about the ENY system in general, it's a request that some of the ENY values be changed to that there is a reason to fly the 'crappy' rides against the late war rides.
crappy rides? no idea what a crappy ride would be, every aircraft has it's strengths and weaknesses...even if there was the promise of 100 perks to shoot down a spixteen with a spit1, just as many people would do it as you see now...it's the mentality, nothing more.
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2011, 04:31:48 PM »
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The majority of my kills though, comes from creating and exploiting very advantageous situations.


Quite the opposite for me. The majority of my kills come from exploiting the lack of ACMs of the enemy.
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2011, 04:43:50 PM »
I would support it.  My question is what planes?  What ENY to what ENY?  etc...


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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2011, 04:49:52 PM »

Quite the opposite for me. The majority of my kills come from exploiting the lack of ACMs of the enemy.

In your case, it's the pilot.

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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2011, 04:55:53 PM »

Quite the opposite for me. The majority of my kills come from exploiting the lack of ACMs of the enemy.


And your k/D is much than mine. Which most probably simply comes from the different approaches we take. Mine would be much lower too if I would only exploit the lack of ACM of the enemy.


(and don't forget: My statements were explicitly used in context of earlier, less capable vs late war planes discussion)
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 06:15:22 PM »
I fly with reckless arrogance!  :D
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2011, 06:17:50 PM »
I fly with reckless arrogance!  :D

I fly with utmost  timidity  :bolt:
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2011, 06:30:37 PM »
I am also capable of utmost timidity. I enjoy this style very much, often at the start of a tour untill my first death. My favorite plane for this is the P51D and prefered altitude 18-25k.
I enjoy everything possible. I never want to pidgeon hole myself into one catagory.
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2011, 07:26:39 PM »
I take down a lot of flyer's in way better planes then i fly all night long.Why is this?
EDIT....Non the less though,i still don't like Eny in any way ...or how kill shooter works in AH ,i know not all agree with me that's fine,I'm what one might call a purest

Trust me. I played in a game that didnt have kill shooter where if a friendly shot a friendly. the friendly being shot at took damage and blew up.

What you will end up with are  people who switch sides to help capture a base or clowns who think its funny to sit on the end of a runway and shoot up every plane that tries to up.
In the other guy after doing this 3 times. the next time you tried to up you were PNG and couldn't have any ammo for 24 hours. BUT that didnt help in the time it was being done. Kind of an after the fact punishment.

Here it works. If you dont just hold the trigger down and fire in short bursts like you should. And you pay attention to who and what is around you like you should be doing. and you dont insist on shooting over other peoples shoulders like you shouldnt be doing. The chances of you shooting yourself down become very small. I've been here over 11 years and the amount of times I've shot myself down or even damaged my own plane by hitting a friendly are minute in comparison to the amount of sorties I've had.
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Re: HTC; A kind request...
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2011, 07:50:01 PM »

I have very good success in EW planes in LW arena. But that's rarely result of a "fair fight", particularly not 1v1. Even a player of average skill can at least deny me the kill in such a situation, using the speed of his plane to control the situation, even if he can't kill me. You do not need much skill for that, only some common sense. In 1v1 situations I generally only kill those really dumb enough to fight me on MY terms (P-51 trying to flat turn with my Hurri I for example)

The majority of my kills though, comes from creating and exploiting very advantageous situations.

Those type plots more often then not know their plane but not their opponents. And you can read all you want about the other planes but without having flown one yourself you never get a true feel for what it can and cant do well or what its capable of.  Such is the case with your pony Vs hurricane. I bet lot of those guys read the history books and watch TV where they tell what a superduper plane the pony was, or the spit or any of the other ezmode planes. Then they come here and fly only those planes because they are the easiest to fly and they have this uber rep and get their butts handed to them by "lessor" planes.

Couple main reasons for this is. unlike you or I,they never bother to take the time to learn the other planes very well, if at all. So they think well on the history channel they said this plane can do this or that and that or this very well. Then they come up against someone like you who not only knows what your plane can do. But what their plane can do as well. Then you just use your experience using your strengths against their weaknesses and are patient enough to goad them into fighting your fight. They loose patience with their standard tactics give up their advantage in the effort to get a quick kill and decide to fight your fight. End result. They get their butts handed to them.

If your smart you learn how to get kills using every, or as many different planes in the game as you can. Then when you go up against a P51 with a Hurricane. You know how to play them to your advantage
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