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Offline SEseph

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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2011, 05:58:08 PM »
Jekyll... how am I suppose to rip little missions like this apart if you're telling the secret! If they don't want listen and learn, well, survival of the fitest and what not.

Too many rules turn people sour or into a mirror image of the rule maker... just saying.
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2011, 06:08:02 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2011, 06:20:13 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2011, 06:34:52 PM »
Troll?   I'm sorry but 90% of this Community has never acknowledged DALLAS and has been the recipient of his tirades.  

Your previous post was an excuse.

You fail to explain how my post is an excuse for anything. I never mentioned Dallas or anyone's PM'ing practices but you keep bringing it up. I never tried to excuse PM attacks at all, I only addressed the issue of the Devil's Brigade staying out of 200. Who's the one on a tirade?
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2011, 07:08:11 PM »
what do the vTARDS have to do with radar settings???
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2011, 07:14:59 PM »
This thread was hijacked in the first 5 posts.

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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2011, 07:15:12 PM »
The Devil's Brigade discourages tuning to 200 because they use text channels extensively. Vox channels can get clogged if there's more than half-a-dozen guys, not even taking into account all the chatty guys in Range. Mission commanders use voice as much as they can but most orders are repeated in text. In combat pilots are encouraged to use vox only when absolutely necessary, and to use the text buffer otherwise. 200 hogs the text buffer and a transmission can be buried in a matter of seconds. Mission Awareness is the biggest reason tuning to 200 is frowned upon in the Devil's Brigade.

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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2011, 07:31:53 PM »
Thank you OP.  That was educational.

I spent almost 3 weeks of free time reading the HTC help, trainer help and forums going back a long way before I signed up for a play account and I think your OP was great.

Sorry your thread got hijacked.  
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2011, 07:36:01 PM »
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2011, 08:17:16 PM »


Well, many of us have seen this before and apparently there are many who still do not understand so lets clarify the height/alt restrictions.  In this case folks there are three we need to worry about. One as it relates to the DAR which is 500ft AGL, one as it relates to the Radar which is 65ft AGL, and the last as it relates to Radar range which is 0 AGL. So what will happen if you break any of these alt restrictions inbound to a base. Well one or a combination of three things.

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Two, a corresponding DAR will indicate enemy presence of all planes above 500ft AGL. This DAR will corresponde to the number of enemy planes above the 500 ft alt. (note, it will not show YOUR plane to you)

And the third, this one is the most elusive for some folks, if you are above the 65ft AGL line you will show as a red dot on any radar range marker so long as the radar has not been destroyed.  You see, this is the trick. So many still believe that if they are below the 500 ft AGL they will NOT show a dot on enemy radar; this is wrong. You will not show as a DAR bar, but the radar will still flash and you will still show as a red dot.

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One correction to your lesson:   
 
DARBAR  =  250 FT AGL    (not 500ft).   This is the current setting.
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2011, 08:23:53 PM »
I have yet to see a red dot and no dar bar.

I have seen a dar bar and no red dot.

I have seen an enemy plane and no dar bar.

Apparently I'm not doing it right.



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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2011, 08:31:49 PM »
Glad to see the thread is back on subject.  :aok
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2011, 08:32:42 PM »
I have yet to see a red dot and no dar bar.


I see it every day, each time when a NOE enters the circle of a working base radar (or an enemy fighter after a dogfight trying to get away on the deck)
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2011, 08:47:58 PM »
Calling out a raid on 200 is an enjoyable part of the game.  A little "we see you".

To call someone out as a spy for doing so is ignorant.
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Re: A Lesson on Dar and Radar
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2011, 09:46:26 PM »
I have yet to see a red dot and no dar bar.

I have seen a dar bar and no red dot.

I have seen an enemy plane and no dar bar.

Apparently I'm not doing it right.



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check it out more closely, you'll see it.. they think they're NOE because they aren't throwing up a bar.. they enter a working radar ring, their dots show. as they're usually not under 65 feet. when you see dots and no bar, you KNOW it's NOE.  been like this for quite some time.


I coulda swore this was well known, and thought thats why I see so many suicide ponies/190's dive out of 15k solely for a radar tower on a day to day basis.
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