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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2011, 08:24:56 PM »
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In fairy tales, perhaps.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2011, 08:30:40 PM »
I remember when the milk delivery service went out of business. Sadly all things come to an end although for some reason my mom was really depressed for some time.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2011, 08:31:09 PM »
I remember when the milk delivery service went out of business. Sadly all things come to an end although for some reason my mom was really depressed for some time.

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2011, 09:06:46 PM »
In fairy tales, perhaps.

No, in real life.  If you don't try, you've already failed.  My favorite example comes from D-Day:

"There are two kinds of people on this beach, people who are dead, and people who are going to die, now let's get off this beach!"

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2011, 09:17:21 PM »
Sorry I figured the price wouldn't be as high if none of the boosters were reused. but dang I had no idea! and I see how that works, but the parts blast away and burn up right? So none of it would be reusable or am I wrong?

The solid rocket boosters don't go high enough to attain orbit, they fall into the ocean, the casing is recovered and rebuilt by Thiokol.  The external fuel tank goes higher, but still falls in the ocean, they break up on impact and cannot be reused.

The expensive part is the shuttle itself, even though it is reused, it takes tons of preparation and maintenance between each mission.  It served it's purpose well, just wish something was coming down the pipe to replace it.  Without it, there is nothing that can get massive stuff like Hubble and the ISS components into orbit.

In a related story Texans are ticked off they they aren't getting one of the shuttles, in spite of mission control in being in Houston.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2011, 11:42:01 PM »
The solid rocket boosters don't go high enough to attain orbit, they fall into the ocean, the casing is recovered and rebuilt by Thiokol.  The external fuel tank goes higher, but still falls in the ocean, they break up on impact and cannot be reused.

The expensive part is the shuttle itself, even though it is reused, it takes tons of preparation and maintenance between each mission.  It served it's purpose well, just wish something was coming down the pipe to replace it.  Without it, there is nothing that can get massive stuff like Hubble and the ISS components into orbit.

In a related story Texans are ticked off they they aren't getting one of the shuttles, in spite of mission control in being in Houston.
I knew all of that, i've seen a few launches on you tube. and I used to be all about science and space when I was a kid, then I turned into a teen and slowly lost my smarts earlier last year.  :cry
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2011, 08:02:19 AM »
Just thought I would throw this in here: at the bottom of this article it mentions a new American space  program apparently still being planned. Perhaps there is hope?

bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13829782

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2011, 09:31:00 AM »
That's amazing! :O

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2011, 09:45:18 AM »
this may be a silly question but, why would they send it back into earth's atomosphere for destruction when the sun could do a much better job without impact on the earth?
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2011, 11:27:47 AM »
The shuttles are being shipped to different places for display. Some of the places really make you scratch your head. Not one was sent to NASA Houston. lol
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2011, 11:32:25 AM »
I'm sure people who worked for NASA will not have a hard time finding another job.



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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2011, 11:44:06 AM »
To get to the closest star would take billions of years

... if you made the journey by foot. with rest breaks.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2011, 11:53:11 AM »
I knew all of that, i've seen a few launches on you tube. and I used to be all about science and space when I was a kid, then I turned into a teen and slowly lost my smarts earlier last year.  :cry

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If you "knew all that" then why did you ask if the SRBs and fuel tank burned up??  :headscratch:

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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2011, 11:56:24 AM »
this may be a silly question but, why would they send it back into earth's atomosphere for destruction when the sun could do a much better job without impact on the earth?

It always seems simple, but there is a great deal involved in shooting something off anywhere.  Planning, timing, fuel management- it's very difficult to do, especially with the limited amount of time and money that NASA has.  Sending into Earth's atmosphere is also a great PR move for drumming up new funds, since there's nothing that gets people to agree with you faster than a fireworks display.

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2011, 12:05:05 PM »
this may be a silly question but, why would they send it back into earth's atomosphere for destruction when the sun could do a much better job without impact on the earth?

You're right.  That is a silly question.   :P

The shuttle doesn't carry enough fuel to lift the fuel tank, or SRBs into orbit, let alone break earths gravity. I don't think the shuttle could escape earth orbit, even if it wanted to, the highest it's ever gone is to place and work on Hubble, about 400 miles up, it's normal orbit is about 200 miles up where the ISS is.  Think about the Saturn V, it had something like 1.5 million pounds more thrust then the shuttle, and it only needed to get a tiny orbiter, and LEM out of earths gravity, the shuttle would have to be much more powerful to do it.   Maybe, with a little extra boost they could get the fuel tank into orbit... but then what, it's just a giant orbiting piece of space FOD, and if it's orbit decays who knows where flaming chunks of it will come down.