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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2011, 10:24:38 PM »
It's kind of hard to say you've properly froze a guy when no one has been unfrozen yet.
At the moment we have no way to revive them, the idea is freeze em until the technology to start them up again is discovered. Like I said they aren't just thrown in the freezer they are slowely frozen and pumped with liquids to do something.

In simple terms its avoiding frostbite which happens when cells freeze and form spikes on the outside(being frozen) and puncture holes in places holes don't belong and once melted the damage is done and can't be healed or un done, this I think happens with rapid freezing. But they make sure that damage isn't done by slowly chilling them and preventing the spikes from forming (Do not ask me how I just have read a few article's and made a few for school and saw something about it on the science channel.) If you don't believe me search it.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2011, 10:36:46 PM »
At the moment we have no way to revive them, the idea is freeze em until the technology to start them up again is discovered. Like I said they aren't just thrown in the freezer they are slowely frozen and pumped with liquids to do something.

In simple terms its avoiding frostbite which happens when cells freeze and form spikes on the outside(being frozen) and puncture holes in places holes don't belong and once melted the damage is done and can't be healed or un done, this I think happens with rapid freezing. But they make sure that damage isn't done by slowly chilling them and preventing the spikes from forming (Do not ask me how I just have read a few article's and made a few for school and saw something about it on the science channel.) If you don't believe me search it.

That's all good and fancy, but it still doesn't really mean anything until you're actually back up and moving around.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2011, 10:44:16 PM »
That's all good and fancy, but it still doesn't really mean anything until you're actually back up and moving around.
Which is completely possible, due to the freezing process you loose no muscle tissue and so walking after would be possible, brain would probably be dead but hell in 10-20 years you can't possibly imagine where we will be at. Being able to recreate brain cells would provide relief to car accident victims and people with dramatic head injuries or people who are paralyzed. All of this can be applied to the body to bring it back to life. The possibility of un freezing people who have been dead for 30-40 years could be just a few years ahead if not sooner. The problem is just restarting the organs and such without the body decaying, but like I said hope to the future is all thats needed now.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #93 on: June 21, 2011, 11:19:43 PM »
My father is an  engineer with 30 years of experience, works as a maintenance technician.  I've seen professors working as janitors.  Perhaps its time  to acknowledge foreign coledge diplomas as equal as USA's. Could be beneficial:)
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2011, 11:47:12 PM »
Which is completely possible, due to the freezing process you loose no muscle tissue and so walking after would be possible, brain would probably be dead but hell in 10-20 years you can't possibly imagine where we will be at. Being able to recreate brain cells would provide relief to car accident victims and people with dramatic head injuries or people who are paralyzed. All of this can be applied to the body to bring it back to life. The possibility of un freezing people who have been dead for 30-40 years could be just a few years ahead if not sooner. The problem is just restarting the organs and such without the body decaying, but like I said hope to the future is all thats needed now.

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2011, 12:17:45 AM »
Keep thinking big, make all A's, and do it.
I've made a B-C average my whole life, the shameful part is Everyone knows I can make straight A's if I tried, but there's mental barriers of which can't be over come.  :(
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2011, 08:09:22 AM »
I've made a B-C average my whole life, the shameful part is Everyone knows I can make straight A's if I tried, but there's mental barriers of which can't be over come.  :(

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #97 on: June 22, 2011, 08:44:29 AM »
My father is an  engineer with 30 years of experience, works as a maintenance technician.  I've seen professors working as janitors.  Perhaps its time  to acknowledge foreign coledge diplomas as equal as USA's. Could be beneficial:)

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #98 on: June 22, 2011, 01:05:39 PM »
I pretty much agree with this guy on the importance of exploration:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2482-Once-Upon-a-Time-in-The-Future

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #99 on: June 22, 2011, 02:12:01 PM »
I was testing cars at kennedy space center's shuttle landing runway this week was able to see much more of what goes on there than I ever expected.

I think the government is making a huge mistake taking apart an already functional infrastructure and putting obstacles (sometimes just not allowing at all) the facility to embrace commercial alternatives to the government contracts that keep them busy.

There are many industries that can benefit from what NASA has assembled there that would negate the need for any government funding at all............if the powers that be actually allowed access to the amazing technology and the fact that there is a dense concentration of very skilled people in one small area.

While I was there, I saw none of the waste I have seen at other goverment controlled facilities but quite the opposite in that I saw old technology skillfully maintained far beyond it's expected life span and creative alternative uses of materials that are no longer needed for thier original purpose.

If anything, the government should use this facility as an example to show other wasteful agencies how to reach the same level of efficiency and stop the wasting.........which would free up more than enough funds to keep Kennedy Space Center running.

History has shown over and over that the government cancels projects only to have a need arise for exactly what they had canceled causing a scramble as they spend 10 times the money of the original canceled project budget and end up with a substantially lower return on the investment.

That said, it was fun booming fast cars down the runway and getting visits by many of the higher managers (and other employees) there who are dedicated to high performance vehicles whether space driven or the 4 wheeled variety.

Kennedy Space Center and the other facilities/contractors are a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude.....they have our gratitude.


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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #100 on: June 22, 2011, 07:20:28 PM »
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2011, 07:22:38 PM »
Really  :huh

You're a smart guy I dont believe you.

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2011, 07:23:21 PM »
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2011, 07:25:16 PM »
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but hell in 10-20 years you can't possibly imagine where we will be at.

Hopefully by that time, people will no longer be saying things like "where we will be at".   :bhead
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2011, 07:32:18 PM »
You're a smart guy I dont believe you.
I like to think so sometimes, but my report cards show different.



Hopefully by that time, people will no longer be saying things like "where we will be at".   :bhead
Cause we will all probably be dead by then. If man hasn't killed himself or the world hasn't ended for unstoppable reasons.
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