New terror of the airport ramp

[Tupac]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13839955

Henri Ziegler can keep pilots from stalling it, but cant keep them from taxiing into stuff.

[Yossarian]

Ouch...that would make a good 'I lost my job today' caption for whoever the poor sod was that was driving the tow truck (I've read elsewhere it was being towed, not taxied - and also that they're going to borrow Korean's new A380 instead).

[oakranger]

It's still flyable, according to AH.

[Babalonian]

Final:  Boeing ∞ - Airbus 0

[flight17]

Ouch...that would make a good 'I lost my job today' caption for whoever the poor sod was that was driving the tow truck (I've read elsewhere it was being towed, not taxied - and also that they're going to borrow Korean's new A380 instead).

im not sure. i have read that airbus' top test pilot was "in command" when it struck the building... So that article made it sound like it was taxiing, not being towed.

[-tronski-]

It was taxiing

Final:  Boeing ∞ - Airbus 0

First day its A $14bn - B $9bn.

IndiGo are negotiating a $16bn order for the A320Neo - sounds like its being announced as a sale? Plus the $17bn order from Air Asia?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/21/us-airshow-indigo-idUSTRE75K1FN20110621
 
 Tronsky

[talliven]

Basic right of way rules.  The Airbus was bigger so the building should have yeilded the right of way.

[guncrasher]

they spend billions designing a plane and they forget the side mirrors.  damn engeneers.

semp

[Shuffler]

they spend billions designing a plane and they forget the side mirrors.  damn engeneers.

semp

snicker

[Babalonian]

It was taxiing

First day its A $14bn - B $9bn.

IndiGo are negotiating a $16bn order for the A320Neo - sounds like its being announced as a sale? Plus the $17bn order from Air Asia?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/21/us-airshow-indigo-idUSTRE75K1FN20110621
 
 Tronsky

Are you smoking from the same pipe as the ABs' PR?  Those are total combined _speculated_ AB sales as of the start of the second day for the remainder of the ENTIRE WEEK'S AIRSHOW vs. Boeing's _confirmed_ sales at the close of _only_ the first day.  The real first days' numbers:

Air Show order highlights
Maker  Client  Order  Value 
Boeing
 Qatar Airways
 Six 777s
 $1.7bn
 
 Two unnamed clients
 17 747-8 superjumbos
 $5.4bn
 
Airbus
 GE Capital Aviation Services
 60 A320neos
 $5.1bn
 
 Saudi Arabia Airlines
 Four A330-300s
 $890m
 
Bombardier
 Unnamed
 10 CS100s
 $616m
 
Embraer
 Various
 39 Embraer 190s
 $1.7bn
 
Rolls Royce
 Tam
 Engines for 27 Airbus A350 XWBs
 $2.2bn
 

AB is super hyping buisness sections today after their shocking problems and success of their competitior at the close of the first day.  Read between the lines (AB: "Speculating, expected, will be announced shortly" vs. B: "confirmed, anounced, signed") and it's looking really ugly.  They're (AB) already hyping their largest potential unconfirmed orders for the week and comming year while Boeing is still enjoying and living in the moment of only day 2 at the Paris Airshow.  Compared to the way things were a year ago and have been going for AB since, they're looking at loosing their edge on the market in less than two years, a new world low record, I'd be worried and working the tire pump for my hype blimp too in their shoes.

[Babalonian]

they spend billions designing a plane and they forget the side mirrors.  damn engeneers.

semp

And still ripped the wing off, and on their own dime too (oh SWEEET irony!), after defiantley flipping off Airport Operators worldwide and saying "tough s!@#, we won't make our round-peg square to fit in your already established and functioning holes, you have to pay to renovate all the holes".   

[guncrasher]

And still ripped the wing off, and on their own dime too (oh SWEEET irony!), after defiantley flipping off Airport Operators worldwide and saying "tough s!@#, we won't make our round-peg square to fit in your already established and functioning holes, you have to pay to renovate all the holes".   

they way i see it, if they ho in a brand new plane in the real world, then why do we complain so much about our cartoon planes.  not like we paid a zillion dollars to build it, i mean it's only 14.95 a month for unlimited planes.

semp

[flight17]

Are you smoking from the same pipe as the ABs' PR?  Those are total combined _speculated_ AB sales as of the start of the second day for the remainder of the ENTIRE WEEK'S AIRSHOW vs. Boeing's _confirmed_ sales at the close of _only_ the first day.  The real first days' numbers:

Air Show order highlights
Maker  Client  Order  Value 
Boeing
 Qatar Airways
 Six 777s
 $1.7bn
 
 Two unnamed clients
 17 747-8 superjumbos
 $5.4bn
 
Airbus
 GE Capital Aviation Services
 60 A320neos
 $5.1bn
 
 Saudi Arabia Airlines
 Four A330-300s
 $890m
 

you are missing a lot from the first day

On the first day...

Boeing:
24x 737-800's : 1.9392bil
17x 747-8I's : 5.3975bil
11x 777-300ER's (6 previously announced) : 3.1251bil
4x 787-9's : .872bil

Total for day 1: 11.3338bil

Airbus:
1x A320 : 85mil
44x A320Neo : 4.0128bil
16x A321Neo : 1.6944
60x A32xNeo : 5.472-6.354bil (these havent been confirmed as specific models, so i figure A320 or A321)15x A330's (both variants) : 3.33bil

Total for day 1: 14.5954-15.4754bil

[Rino]

they spend billions designing a plane and they forget the side mirrors.  damn engeneers.

semp

     Apparently they are too cheap to spring for a couple of wingwalkers as well.  My old company would fire me
for having an accident without wing walkers, or even not enough walkers.

[Rino]

     The true terror of the airport ramp is the new guy who THINKS he knows what he's doing