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Offline alpini13

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FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« on: June 20, 2011, 09:19:10 PM »
We currently have 4 fw190's in the game...5 if you count the Ta152. The best of the A series is not in the game.The fw190 A-9 was produced in quantity(870-910 depending on source) and was a production aircraft that saw extensive combat.More A-9 were produced that D-9 doras and Ta152 combined and we have both of those in the game.
The differnece between the A-9 and the current A-8 is the A-9 is about 10mph faster at all altitudes and has alittle bit more armour protection in the nose and leading edge of the wings,it had a more powerful engine.the guns and ammo loadout was the same. i have run across a performance chart from Focke-Wulf that shows differences between the A-8,A-9,D-9,and D-12 models.as the a-8 and D-9 are in the game and the D-12 was very limited in production and combat the logical plane to be added would be the A-9 as the flight model and damage models for the A-8 would have to be altered to add the plane.
The A-9 came into production before the D-9 and was used as a replacement for the A-8.many squadrons of the lUFTWAFFE were mixed squads during 1944 and 1945,an example would be JG301 which flew Fw190 A-9,fw190 D-9 and TA152 h-0,Ta152-H1 and the only two Ta-152c-0  all at the same time.

Remember the FW190 A-9 was a production model in quantity that saw combat on a variety of fronts.

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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2011, 09:49:06 PM »
Additional info on the fw190 A-9/  some sources claim this was a protoype or was not even made.the Fact is US armed forces recovered combat used fw190A-9 in italy,germany,austria and the russians recovered fw190A-9 combat used aircraft in germany and hungary.At least 7 different squadrons used the fw190A-9 in combat.we have the combat records and the official focke-wulf production records.it was a real production aircraft used in comabt...examples of the fate of some are:
  Stab J.G.11  'Black 4 + '  Crashed in Holland or Belgium 01.01.45, pilot and Geschwaderkommodore Oberstleutnant Gunther Specht missing 
  Stab J.G.1  'Green 7 + '  Crashed after combat 26.11.44 at Lewfreda, pilot Gefr. Ernst Nikoleizak killed 
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  4./J.G.301   A-9/R11, crashed after combat 26.11.44 at Bückeburg 26.11.44, pilot Fw. Emil Schubert killed
    1./J.G.301   Damaged in combat 05.12.44 at Neustrelitz, pilot Fw. Gerhard Koch wounded 
  4./J.G.301   A-9/R11, force-landing after combat 26.11.44 at Niendorf, pilot Uffz. Gottfried Hellriegel wounded 
  15./J.G.54  'Yellow 1 + '  Force-landing 14.01.45 at Broxten, pilot and Staffelführer Lt. Karl Resch killed 
 6.(Sturm)/J.G.300  'Green 3 + -'  Crashed after combat 24.03.45 at Göttingen, pilot Fw. Ewald Preis killed  the list goes on you get the idea....the graph can be found in the TA-152 book that is out

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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 10:26:12 PM »
This cut-and-paste fails almost as much as "scores disappearing after a weekend".   
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 11:00:40 PM »
Only if I get a Spitfire XII to shoot it down with :)
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 11:10:32 PM »
well im glad at least these two guys agree it was a real combat production aircraft made in quantity,thanks guys

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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 11:12:18 PM »
I'd be interested in flying this as well. It would seem to be an easy add to the list, not requiring much programing change from the current A8 model.

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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 11:34:48 PM »
well im glad at least these two guys agree it was a real combat production aircraft made in quantity,thanks guys
Has anybody ever said otherwise about the Fw190A-9?  I've never heard it disputed as a valid contender for addition.
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 11:35:55 PM »
Has anybody ever said otherwise about the Fw190A-9?  I've never heard it disputed as a valid contender for addition.

As long as I get a Spitfire XII to shoot it down.  Don't forget that part! :)
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 11:44:37 PM »
thank you guppy35 for your support in this matter i am glad to see you agree that this is a valid aircraft and you think it should be added to the game,thanks again sir

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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 12:01:03 AM »
I'd guess you'll get your A9 about the time I get a Spit XII :)
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 12:10:44 AM »
We currently have 4 fw190's in the game...5 if you count the Ta152. The best of the A series is not in the game.The fw190 A-9 was produced in quantity(870-910 depending on source) and was a production aircraft that saw extensive combat.More A-9 were produced that D-9 doras and Ta152 combined and we have both of those in the game.
The differnece between the A-9 and the current A-8 is the A-9 is about 10mph faster at all altitudes and has alittle bit more armour protection in the nose and leading edge of the wings,it had a more powerful engine.the guns and ammo loadout was the same. i have run across a performance chart from Focke-Wulf that shows differences between the A-8,A-9,D-9,and D-12 models.as the a-8 and D-9 are in the game and the D-12 was very limited in production and combat the logical plane to be added would be the A-9 as the flight model and damage models for the A-8 would have to be altered to add the plane.
The A-9 came into production before the D-9 and was used as a replacement for the A-8.many squadrons of the lUFTWAFFE were mixed squads during 1944 and 1945,an example would be JG301 which flew Fw190 A-9,fw190 D-9 and TA152 h-0,Ta152-H1 and the only two Ta-152c-0  all at the same time.

Remember the FW190 A-9 was a production model in quantity that saw combat on a variety of fronts.

There were only three that were produced and production stop over the 190D-13, where it was put into action around 11 or so. There were only two variant of A-9 that was put into action. A-9, first of the variants of the A-9 and A9/R6 that was fitted with two WGr 21 underwing rocket launcher.
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 02:42:19 AM »
around 850-950 A9's were built. The canopy has more bubble toward the rear, like the D9 for better visibility, and about 350 more HP; good for 369mph  at SL and 419 at best altitude
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2011, 05:31:16 AM »
+1 a competitive A series wouldn't hurt. And weight correction on the A8 would be great also!
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2011, 06:22:25 AM »
about 350 more HP; good for 369mph  at SL and 419 at best altitude
heck, its impressive. Even if it urns like an a-8, it would be a capable ride.
The Dora can do 372 at SL and 425ish at the best altitude. This A-9 would climb like a BEAST too, guessing 4000+ft/min at SL (just speculating, would luv to see the charts).
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Re: FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2011, 06:40:56 AM »

 yes we definetly need another plane that HOs on first pass, then RUNS from the fight  :rock


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