FW 190 A-9 UPGRADE

[Debrody]

You mean there is a plane in the entire planeset that doesnt typically do exactly that anyway?

anyway its not the plane, its the pilot. I know many spit16 heroes as a dedicated ho-n-runners, while i know many pilots who never run from a fight.
an example:  Is the La-7 a dweeb or a tard plane? Is SF an L-ghey tard then? No cuz he uses its speed to catch the enemy not to run from them. Big difference.

[STEELE]

the 190 A9 would be the easiest, quick addition, we already have the canopy (from the D9, 152) and of course the whole other graphic model from the A8.
Same thing when they added the 47M. This would also help prove there is no bias of Luft aircraft, too!     (provided the A8 is put on a diet, and the A5 gets it's real top speed at sea level of 352 at 1.42 ata)

[Guppy35]

You mean there is a plane in the entire planeset that doesnt typically do exactly that anyway?

Absolutely hilarious tonight, and with no disrespect intended to DREDIOCK.  So there I am on the deck in a fight, and what do I see but a 190A5 coming at me head on.  True to what I said I didn't HO, but the 190 started blazing away head on and shot me down.

Who was it?  DREDIOCK

I don't care, but having seen his comment in this thread, and having replied, it seemed appropriate 

[Debrody]

Absolutely hilarious tonight, and with no disrespect intended to DREDIOCK.  So there I am on the deck in a fight, and what do I see but a 190A5 coming at me head on.  True to what I said I didn't HO, but the 190 started blazing away head on and shot me down.

Who was it?  DREDIOCK

I don't care, but having seen his comment in this thread, and having replied, it seemed appropriate 

Drediock fail? 

[Krusty]

the 190 A9 would be the easiest, quick addition

To what end? You want an A8 that's 10mph faster? Nose down for 1 second you get 10mph more.

[Debrody]

To what end? You want an A8 that's 10mph faster? Nose down for 1 second you get 10mph more.

Im sorry but this was low.

[Wmaker]

To what end? You want an A8 that's 10mph faster? Nose down for 1 second you get 10mph more.

How diletant can you be?

That 10mph is a difference between life and death in an on the deck tail chase.

[RTHolmes]

I was going to say +10mph is pretty marginal, but then I remebered what a difference the remodelling of the mossie made to its ability. how many more mph did the mossie get last year?

[Krusty]

Mossie seems to have got closer to 20mph difference Holmes.

As for 10mph? I think too much reliance is put on 10mph. It is what it is, no doubt. However if the chase is that close you're going to have to do some manuvering anyways. I've been on the receiving end of a run-down too many times to count. I should be the one wanting the extra speed, but I don't want speed just as a means to surviving. It's not like the 190A8 is all that slow on the deck. You realize it does about 350 currently, right? That's pretty good. It'll outrun a spit16 at max speed by about 5mph, last I recall. (not out accelerate, mind you, just out-run)

You save 5-8mph alone by leaving the ETC rack off. I don't see that as stopping most folks from taking DTs on Fw190s, as long as they can drop it and instantly be in "fighting weight"...

It's really a minor gain. You can lose 10mph from simply being out of trim.

[Debrody]

It's really a minor gain. You can lose 10mph from simply being out of trim.

I wish i had that "really minor gain" when 10+ spits were chasing my g-6...

[DREDIOCK]

anyway its not the plane, its the pilot. I know many spit16 heroes as a dedicated ho-n-runners, while i know many pilots who never run from a fight.
an example:  Is the La-7 a dweeb or a tard plane? Is SF an L-ghey tard then? No cuz he uses its speed to catch the enemy not to run from them. Big difference.

Far as dweebery goes I agree. Its the pilot.
Your talking exceptions to the rule though of those who will fight it out.
I see at least just as many who either Ho and run Or Ho and dive to their ack.

My point was that there isnt a plane in the game that people dont do exactly the same thing as any other plane does

[DREDIOCK]

Absolutely hilarious tonight, and with no disrespect intended to DREDIOCK.  So there I am on the deck in a fight, and what do I see but a 190A5 coming at me head on.  True to what I said I didn't HO, but the 190 started blazing away head on and shot me down.

Who was it?  DREDIOCK

I don't care, but having seen his comment in this thread, and having replied, it seemed appropriate 

Entirely possible, But as I've mentioned many times in the arenas. I Ho in rataliation. If I hoed you it is because someone in the similar type plane has recently tried to or has HO me. And if 90% of the people in an area are hoing me. Then all bets are off. What goes around comes around

Exception to the rule is spits. I'll ho them almost any time because I have such a low opinion of them. Or if Im being ganged. And in the the case of the latter only sometimes.
In a reasonably fair fight though. You wont see me ho until I see it being done to me as its not my first preference. And even then not always. I dont HO far more then I do.

Reason I prefer not to is because you are just as likely to loose that type of engagement as win one. Probably why there are more MOH's that were awarded to pilots postmortem then to live ones.

A point proved to me yet again a couple of times in those A5 runs last night. 2 to tiffies, and 1 to a Ki84.

On the other hand. If you were around long enough. You did also see me mixing it up and not always running away unless I had a ton of people on me. which is often the case as soon as I collect a couple of kills, or I was really low on E. Or I was trying to RTB.

[STEELE]

To what end? You want an A8 that's 10mph faster? Nose down for 1 second you get 10mph more.

350 to 369 is 19 mph gain  , so Yes!

[Ruah]

I agre with Krusty though - the best thing would be to get the weight changed on the A8.  I would love to see an A9, an A model 190 that is an upgrade to the A5 that I fly sometimes (if in a pack 190, if alone 109) - but really, the A8 with 400 or so kgs removed would make the A8 a lot better to fly. . .

p.s. and please make the benifits of that armor more 'effective' especially around the engine and pilot. . .

[Guppy35]

Entirely possible, But as I've mentioned many times in the arenas. I Ho in rataliation. If I hoed you it is because someone in the similar type plane has recently tried to or has HO me. And if 90% of the people in an area are hoing me. Then all bets are off. What goes around comes around

Exception to the rule is spits. I'll ho them almost any time because I have such a low opinion of them. Or if Im being ganged. And in the the case of the latter only sometimes.
In a reasonably fair fight though. You wont see me ho until I see it being done to me as its not my first preference. And even then not always. I dont HO far more then I do.

Reason I prefer not to is because you are just as likely to loose that type of engagement as win one. Probably why there are more MOH's that were awarded to pilots postmortem then to live ones.

A point proved to me yet again a couple of times in those A5 runs last night. 2 to tiffies, and 1 to a Ki84.

On the other hand. If you were around long enough. You did also see me mixing it up and not always running away unless I had a ton of people on me. which is often the case as soon as I collect a couple of kills, or I was really low on E. Or I was trying to RTB.

No worries DRED.  No complaint on my part.  Just thought it hilarious considering our back  to back posts on it.  The odds against us running into each other in that situation the same day had to be pretty high