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Offline Slade

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Hurricane Mk IV
« on: June 22, 2011, 01:31:51 PM »
Hurricane Mk IV was the last major change to the Hurricane was the introduction of the "universal Wing", a single design able to mount two 250 lb or 500 lb (110 or 230 kg) bombs, two 40 mm (1.57 in) Vickers S guns, drop tanks or eight "60 pounder" RP-3 rockets. Two .303 in Brownings were fitted to aid aiming of the heavier armament.

The new design also incorporated the improved Merlin 24 or 27 engines of 1,620 hp (1,208 kW), equipped with dust filters for desert operations. The Merlin 27 had a redesigned oil system that was better suited to operations in the tropics, and which was rated at a slightly lower altitude in keeping with the Hurricane's new role as a close-support fighter. The radiator was deeper and armoured. Additional armour was also fitted around the engine.

2x 40 mm guns, 1 x 40mm gun and 4 RP’s, 8 RP’s, 4 RP’s and one 44 gallon drop tank, 1 500 lb bomb, and 2 RP’s. Bombs and fuel tanks could also be carried. In combat the mixed RP and drop tank loads seem to have been most common in Italy/Balkans, with single armament loads most common in Burma and operations from the UK. The mixed loads could be placed on either wing.



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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2011, 02:53:17 PM »
The Mk IV didn't carry 4 20mm cannon.  Seems like we've talked about this one before.  I believe it had a 'sighting' 303 in the wing to help with aim on the rockets but was not one you'd get into a dogfight with :)
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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2011, 03:37:47 PM »
would make a nice addition
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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2011, 03:59:25 PM »
I do like the 40mm + 4 RP combination.

Even if the 40mm is HE and not AP.

On the surface, seems to be a pretty easy add to the planeset.

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2011, 04:56:00 PM »
The Mk IV didn't carry 4 20mm cannon.  Seems like we've talked about this one before.  I believe it had a 'sighting' 303 in the wing to help with aim on the rockets but was not one you'd get into a dogfight with :)

I think it was for the Vickers S-guns rather than the rockets. I've seen a photo with tons of dust marks and the caption said they were from the .303 which was used to range and aim the target (in this case a burnt out target hull).

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 05:58:52 PM »
I think it was for the Vickers S-guns rather than the rockets. I've seen a photo with tons of dust marks and the caption said they were from the .303 which was used to range and aim the target (in this case a burnt out target hull).

Could be.  The OP posted a photo of a Hurricane with 4 20mm.  The Hurri IV isn't going to have that and the rockets or 40mm too.  Don't want there to be any confusion on that bit :)

It was basically a way to drag out the use of the Hurri for ground attack in areas where running into any opposition in the air was minimal if not non existent.
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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 09:17:51 AM »
Agreed. Not like the hurrIIc gets much ground pounding action in the game right now, eh? A hurrIV is a Hurr2D with bombs/rockets options, was mostly unarmed (except for the 40mm anti-tank option) and would still be as slow as a hurr2c.

I think it would be prefectly acceptable if HTC had already included it into the game, but I can't see any real need or hole in the planeset that this craft fills. I can't see HTC rushing to work on it when so many others beckon!

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 10:26:26 AM »
more hurri's would suit me.  i don't know at all, but is our variant the best hurri with 20 mm?

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 10:37:20 AM »
I'd rather have a hurri mk1A with 12x7mm  :O
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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 12:46:47 PM »
I'd rather have a hurri mk1A with 12x7mm  :O
you mean the hurri 2 B?
Anyway, it needs a remodelling badly. +1 for the remodel and the new variant.
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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 12:55:05 PM »
I'd rather have a hurri mk1A with 12x7mm  :O

you mean the hurri 2 B?
Anyway, it needs a remodelling badly. +1 for the remodel and the new variant.

I'd like to see a Hurr2 given 3 guns options when it is remodeled, 8x .303 (Hurr2a), 12x .303 (Hurr2b, although most removed the outer guns to lighten it anyway), and 4x 20mm (Hurr2c, what we have now).

It would open up a few things here and there in scenarios and setups.

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 06:31:56 PM »
I'd like to see a Hurr2 given 3 guns options when it is remodeled, 8x .303 (Hurr2a), 12x .303 (Hurr2b, although most removed the outer guns to lighten it anyway), and 4x 20mm (Hurr2c, what we have now).

It would open up a few things here and there in scenarios and setups.

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 10:26:01 PM »
I'd like to see a Hurr2 given 3 guns options when it is remodeled, 8x .303 (Hurr2a), 12x .303 (Hurr2b, although most removed the outer guns to lighten it anyway), and 4x 20mm (Hurr2c, what we have now).

It would open up a few things here and there in scenarios and setups.

I'd rather just have them all individually listed rather than all in one with different gun packages, since we already differentiate between the IIC and IID.

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 10:36:49 PM »
Pig, that hurrIV (aka HurrIId) may have had different configurations, weights, armor plating since it was ground attack, etc.

The Hurr2 A, B, and C, were the same plane with different weapons. Very little other difference. You might argue certain tropical filters, but these were across all makes and models, not specific to (i.e.) just the Hurr2A.

Why bother splitting them up? It's really the same plane, same engine, same capabilities, just different guns. It would be like splitting up the P-51D into 2 planes, one with 4x 50cal, the other with 6x50cal.

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Re: Hurricane Mk IV
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2011, 11:35:02 PM »
Hurri IV's in the Balkans.  Not sure I'd want to go into combat with a DT and 4 rockets.  Seems like the Hurri IIc with 4 20mm and 2 bombs as used in Burma would have been a better option.

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