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Offline Wolfala

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And that is why we don't get low and slow
« on: June 27, 2011, 09:54:28 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz-fZkKlPmU&feature=player_embedded

Was teaching Saturday night after a day of paintball, when the ATIS at KBDR comes up with Closed due to emergency. So we had to put down in New Haven. Turns out - a guy I know in a Cherokee 6 got low, slow and behind the power curve - and landed short of the blast fence. Maybe landed is a misnomer - he ripped a wing off, which exploded behind him luckily, plowed his nose through the blast fence - it could've been worse. Suffice to say, the airport was closed for the next 20 hours.














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Offline Shuffler

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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 09:57:31 AM »
Holy...... wow
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 10:08:57 AM »
oh dang  :uhoh
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Offline Stoney

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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 10:22:05 AM »
You always have the best screen shots...   :airplane:
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 10:24:25 AM »
That'll buff out.
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Offline icepac

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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 10:30:55 AM »
I think the system will credit him with a landing rather than a ditch.
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 10:33:40 AM »
Glad he is ok....are you sure Corky wasn't piloting? Looks like his handy work.
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Offline 5anders

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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 11:55:16 AM »
Quote from: icepac on June 27, 2011, 10:30:55 AM
I think the system will credit him with a landing rather than a ditch.

Yeah he got most of it on the pavement.  :lol
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 11:57:23 AM »
Quote from: Wolfala on June 27, 2011, 09:54:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz-fZkKlPmU&feature=player_embedded

Was teaching Saturday night after a day of paintball, when the ATIS at KBDR comes up with Closed due to emergency. So we had to put down in New Haven. Turns out - a guy I know in a Cherokee 6 got low, slow and behind the power curve - and landed short of the blast fence. Maybe landed is a misnomer - he ripped a wing off, which exploded behind him luckily, plowed his nose through the blast fence - it could've been worse. Suffice to say, the airport was closed for the next 20 hours.

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 stuff like that is why i thank god for the excellent cfi's i've had.

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Offline Stoney

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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 11:59:59 AM »
Quote from: CAP1 on June 27, 2011, 11:57:23 AM
stuff like that is why i thank god for the excellent cfi's i've had.

The best CFI can't fix poor decision-making...
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 12:06:22 PM »
Quote from: Stoney on June 27, 2011, 11:59:59 AM
The best CFI can't fix poor decision-making...

 true, but he can drum things into his students constantly. mine did. i'm sure the cfi's on here will say the same thing.....keep drumming it in, and it'll take hold.
 bob has a tendency to bring "problems" onto the airplane with him. and i always seem to find them. but....thanks to his style, i've landed with partial engine failure, and with total electrical system failures.....the electrical system pooped out at night......and both times were non-events, that could very easily have turned very very bad, without the guidance of a good cfi. he wasn't onboard for those btw.......but i'd dealt with both instances simulated many many times.
 he also had a good habit of making sure his students understood the "whys" of what he was instructing.  :aok understanding the "whys" leads to it sticking in ones mind to make better decisions.
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2011, 02:08:37 PM »
Quote from: Becinhu on June 27, 2011, 10:33:40 AM
Glad he is ok....are you sure Corky wasn't piloting? Looks like his handy work.

I will admit to bouncing my first solo landing, but I actually never cracked up a real plane :)
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 03:21:10 PM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on June 27, 2011, 02:08:37 PM
I will admit to bouncing my first solo landing, but I actually never cracked up a real plane :)

 would you believe that the very best landing i ever had was my first solo? while not bad, i've never put her down as smoothly as i did that day.
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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
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Offline cpxxx

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Re: And that is why we don't get low and slow
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 11:09:27 AM »
Well only this morning, in fact on the first flight of the day. I had some excitement. Took off, but the climb rate seemed poor and the engine down on power. I went through everything and spotted the cylinder head temperature gauge was pegged right off the scale. After some excitement and confusion I succeeded in getting rid of some of my 'passengers'  and a hurried descent and landing was made. True to my training I made sure to aim to land deep and carry a bit of speed. If the engine quit on short finals it could go horribly wrong. Better to hit the hedge at the end of the runway at walking speed than crash through wall at the other end at flying speed.

All's well that ends well. It looks like at least one pot is blown. Put a damper on the day somewhat. On the other hand I did get the rest of the day off spoiled a little by my wife taking me shopping, unconvinced of the trauma caused by my close shave with death!

Just proving once again that good training is all important. You may only have to use it once in your career but once is enough.
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