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Offline SEseph

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 10:31:01 PM »
it's only one letter away... :neener:

Same letters from 1948-1965 :D

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 10:32:45 PM »
my a26 product is not represented either  :D.

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Sure it is, it would fall under effect of this line of my opening post:

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As Douglas is already a represented company the post would not have addressed the A-26.  There are aircraft that I would very much like to see added that also fall into that category in this thread, your A-26 was by no means singled out for exclusion.
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2011, 12:22:22 AM »
to be honest with you I wish every single airplane was included in ah.  but right after they add my vader.  was so disappointed to not see it when I started playing 4 or 5 years ago. been waiting for it since then.

but it really upsets me when a new plane gets added and after the first month or 2 then it goes into the hangar queen program.  a26 will get a heck more use than any of the other airplanes that I have seen requested.  only the m4-75 and m476 have seen heavy used of any gv/plane added since I started playing a few years back.  with the exception of the big gun package added to the il2.  not sure if the il2 was a new plane or not, i was too new back then.  :salute.

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2011, 01:23:09 AM »
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2011, 02:07:26 AM »
with the exception of the big gun package added to the il2.  not sure if the il2 was a new plane or not, i was too new back then.  :salute.

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Il-2 was not a new aircraft and while it was common prior to the 37mm option, it became more common after it was revamped.

I don't think the A-26 would see as much use as you expect.  Pyro mentioned it to me as a future perk bomber when I called HTC many years ago when the Spitfires were being redone.  Perks have a real noticeable effect on usage, particularly when people don't feel the survivability is there.  Why use a Spitfire Mk XIV when you can use a Spitfire Mk XVI for free?  Why use an A-26 when you can use an A-20 for free?
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2011, 08:13:18 AM »
a20 is not even close to being an a26.  a much faster, more ords, more guns.

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2011, 02:25:44 PM »
a20 is not even close to being an a26.  a much faster, more ords, more guns.

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It becomes much closer in people's minds if the A-20 is free and the A-26 costs 20 perks that they likely will lose.  Toss the Mosquito Mk VI and Bf110G-2 in there as free competition as well.  Heck, the Mosquito is more likely to make it back to base than the A-26 would be.  Yeah, the A-26 carries more bombers, but firepowerwise the Mosquito matches it and the Bf110 beats it.

The problem the A-26 is going to have is that it is too good to be free, but not survivable enough to be used much once perked.  You'll end up with Spitfire Mk XIV numbers.  Well, probably better than that, but you get my meaning.
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2011, 04:50:25 PM »
It becomes much closer in people's minds if the A-20 is free and the A-26 costs 20 perks that they likely will lose.  Toss the Mosquito Mk VI and Bf110G-2 in there as free competition as well.  Heck, the Mosquito is more likely to make it back to base than the A-26 would be.  Yeah, the A-26 carries more bombers, but firepowerwise the Mosquito matches it and the Bf110 beats it.

The problem the A-26 is going to have is that it is too good to be free, but not survivable enough to be used much once perked.  You'll end up with Spitfire Mk XIV numbers.  Well, probably better than that, but you get my meaning.

neither the mosquito nor the bg110 carries anywhere near the amount of ords the a26 does.  there are fighters that can carry more ords than the 110 and nearly as much as the a20 with also 6 50 caliber mg and more maneuverable.  which is to say they would be a better choice than either one, but it all depends on the situation and the skill/knowledge of the player using it.  there's a reason why you dont see a20's hitting towns that often, but you see 110's more and it is the nose guns, it's easier to strafe buildings that to bomb.   this is where the a26 can come in noe, keeping up with fighters, level town and get away before they even know what hit them.  a single a26 will more than kill 1/2 the town in a single pass.  neither the a20 nor the 110 can do this in one pass. so sorry, but neither the a20 nor the 110 are a good replacement for the a26.

anyway let's not turn this into another a26 yey (?)/ney thing.  it's about the other hangar queens requested, just in a different way   :O.

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 05:58:25 PM »
No Ta-152?  Or did that get thrown in under all the 190s and Focke Wulfs?  I'd at least consider it two different airframes still, between the A series and the long-nosed Doras and 152s.
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2011, 11:45:46 PM »
A-26 stuff...
You missed my point.  The A-26 is not much faster than the A-20G (it will not keep up with the fighters as you say) but carries a lot more bombs and guns, enough to where it will be perked, though I would guess it would be the cheapest of perk bombers.  Those who want to use it as a fighter and concentrate on the number of .50s it has will find it annoyingly perked, and ganged as a perk plane, for no gain in firepower over the two heavy fighters I mentioned and their lower bombloads are irrelevant to that.  Some will still fly it for the challenge of using it as a fighter, but it will not be nearly as common as you seem to think based on advocating it over a "hanger queen".  The A-26 will be a hanger queen for the same reason the Spitfire Mk XIV is, not enough bang for the perk cost.

No Ta-152?  Or did that get thrown in under all the 190s and Focke Wulfs?  I'd at least consider it two different airframes still, between the A series and the long-nosed Doras and 152s.
The Ta152 was only not the Fw190E (or whatever letter) for political reasons.  It is obviously a continuation of the evolution of the Fw190 series just as the Spitfire F.21 is a continuation of the Spitfire line despite completely redesigned wings.
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2011, 07:27:33 AM »
This single thread has the wishes of a thousand threads.

im sorry,is this a wish because it doesnt seem like you asked for anything?

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2011, 11:46:58 AM »

Armstrong Whitworth: 0
Bloch: 0
Bristol: 0 Beaufighter, Beaufort, Blenheim
Cant: 0
Caproni: 0
Dewoitine: 0
Dornier: 0 Do17, Do217
Fairey: 0
Farman: 0
Fiat: 0
Fokker: 0
Gloster: 0
Handley Page: 0
Heinkel: 0 He111, He177, He219
Henschel: 0
Mikoyan-Gurevich: 0
Morane-Saulnier: 0
Northrop: 0
Petlyakov: 0 Pe-2
Potez: 0
PZL: 0
Reggiane: 0
Savoia-Marchetti: 0 S.M.79-II
SNCASE: 0
Short: 0
Tupolev: 0 SB-2, Tu-2
Vickers: 0 Wellington
Westland: 0
Yokosuka: 0 D4Y Susei "Judy", P1Y Ginga "Frances"

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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2011, 12:41:53 PM »
I think Short should be bolded


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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2011, 02:43:03 PM »
I think Short shold be bolded
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Vickers Wellington is more representative.  Short Stirling was a dismal, short lived, debacle.

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The Re2005 certainly does not make it significant.  What did they produce in quantity that actually fought?
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Re: Aircraft manufacturer representation in AH
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2011, 03:02:53 PM »
Brain fart, got it confused with the Halifax.