The M10 Tank Destroyer

[iron650]

The M10 Wolverine was used in the Desert Campaign. Also, the Wolverine was used in the Battle of Normandy and Pacific War. At the Battle of Normandy the Wolverine's gun couldn't penetrate the frontal armor of the Tiger and Panther. The Wolverine used AP, APCBC, and APHE rounds.


The M10 specs:

Weight: 65,000lbs
Length: 22.41ft
Width: 10ft
Height: 8.43ft
Crew: 5 (Commander, 3 gun crew members, driver)
Armor: 9-57.2mm
Armament:
1x 3" (76.2mm) Gun M7
1x .50 cal M2 Browning machine gun
Engine: General Motors 6046 Twin Diesel 6-71 375 hp
Suspension: Vertical Volute Spring Suspension
Range: 186mi
Speed: 32mph



The Wolverine will be an interesting addition. The M10 will help as a tank destroyer. The Wolverine is faster than the Sherman but has less armor. The M10 along with the Stug III and Su-85. The tank destroyer along and others can help defense/offense of a base.

[Rob52240]

This is blasphemy!

There should be no talk praising any Tank destroyers aside from the M-18 until after we get the M-18.

I'll assume you're just new to the game and let this one slide.

[shermanjr]

lol it would be nice to have some historic ones for any ealry war senerios

[SmokinLoon]

It would make for an easier addition to AH than the M18.  The M10's chassis is already in game thanks to the M4's.

The ammunition is the same as the M4A3 (W) 76mm, yes?  The charts are all showing the "AP M79" shot for the standard AP round for both the M10's 3in M7 main gun and the M4A3/76mm's M1 76mm main gun. Perhaps this is where HTC could add the APCBC (armor piercing capped w/ ballistic cap) and give the M10 better performance (another 15mm of AP) vs tanks over the M4/76mm???

The ability of the M10 to carry HE should be almost non-existent, with maybe a few token HE rounds for good measure.  Actually, come to think of it I believe the Sherman VC Firefly carries far more HE rounds than it did in WWII as well.  I'd like to see the Firefly have a diminished ablity to carry HE rounds.

[Scotty55OEFVet]

Ok, it would make a nice addition buuuuuut, it is an open topped gun turret much like the wirblewind and as soon as it is strafed by any AC on 1 pass its turret will be renedered useless. Youmight as well ask for it to have the option of carrying a supply trailer behind it. And I havent done my research on the M10 in Normandy yet (I do not recall hearing about a single engagement in the Normandy Campaign in which M10's were used), I do know that a number of them were used during the The Battle of the Bulge along with the M18. There are other Armored vehicles that should be put into AH before this one. Good thought but -1

[SmokinLoon]

Ok, it would make a nice addition buuuuuut, it is an open topped gun turret much like the wirblewind and as soon as it is strafed by any AC on 1 pass its turret will be renedered useless. Youmight as well ask for it to have the option of carrying a supply trailer behind it. And I havent done my research on the M10 in Normandy yet (I do not recall hearing about a single engagement in the Normandy Campaign in which M10's were used), I do know that a number of them were used during the The Battle of the Bulge along with the M18. There are other Armored vehicles that should be put into AH before this one. Good thought but -1

That is the other thing as well, the M10 and M18 both would be quite easily to disable from the air.  There really isnt much to gain from adding either.  They offer nothing that a tank in AH cant do, save for the M18's 48mph speed.

[AKP]

Dont let 321BAR see this... it will get him started on the M-18 again. 

[B-17]

"But its been awhile..." He will say.

[321BAR]

You guys do know something right?... Think about what the M10 chassis is... then think of what size gun it has... then think of the one and only difference between it and another vehicle we have...


Its an M4A3/76 with an open top to it and a soft turret. that is it. Easy to introduce most likely but has absolutely no game changing possibilities unlike other much more distinct vehicle... err vehicles

[bangsbox]

yes a tank that i can explode with a couple of 20mm 

[E25280]

Its an M4A3/76 with an open top to it and a soft turret. that is it. Easy to introduce most likely but has absolutely no game changing possibilities.

This.

[Oddball-CAF]

It would make for an easier addition to AH than the M18.  The M10's chassis is already in game thanks to the M4's.
The ammunition is the same as the M4A3 (W) 76mm, yes?  The charts are all showing the "AP M79" shot for the standard AP round for both the M10's 3in M7 main gun and the M4A3/76mm's M1 76mm main gun. Perhaps this is where HTC could add the APCBC (armor piercing capped w/ ballistic cap) and give the M10 better performance (another 15mm of AP) vs tanks over the M4/76mm???
The ability of the M10 to carry HE should be almost non-existent, with maybe a few token HE rounds for good measure.  Actually, come to think of it I believe the Sherman VC Firefly carries far more HE rounds than it did in WWII as well.  I'd like to see the Firefly have a diminished ablity to carry HE rounds.

Loon,
   What are you using as the basis for stating what the loadouts were for HE rounds on these platforms. Wouldn't that be
based on the anticipated tactical situation and dictated locally? I'm just curious.

Odd

[SmokinLoon]

Loon,
   What are you using as the basis for stating what the loadouts were for HE rounds on these platforms. Wouldn't that be
based on the anticipated tactical situation and dictated locally? I'm just curious.

Odd

THe US SOP didnt really allow for TD's to move up and engage the enemy with HE.  The TD's had a role and that was to engage enemy armor, it couldnt take the MG and HE fire the enemy would sling at them.  Think of it like using a rifle to shoot upland game.  That doesnt mean a TD didnt ever move up and fire HE when needed in dire situations or as a last resort, but if I can dig up the standard ammo loadout again for an M10 I bet they had less than 10 rounds of HE (47 rounds max for an M10, iirc).  

[Scotty55OEFVet]

You guys do know something right?... Think about what the M10 chassis is... then think of what size gun it has... then think of the one and only difference between it and another vehicle we have...


Its an M4A3/76 with an open top to it and a soft turret. that is it. Easy to introduce most likely but has absolutely no game changing possibilities unlike other much more distinct vehicle... err vehicles

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M26 Pershing would be next in line for an American Heavy Tank that can lock horns with the Tiger and Panther. But, I do think the Brits need another Tank to be represented such as the Crusader series of Tanks. say, maybe the Cromwell?

[iron650]

M26 Pershing would be next in line for an American Heavy Tank that can lock horns with the Tiger and Panther. But, I do think the Brits need another Tank to be represented such as the Crusader series of Tanks. say, maybe the Cromwell?

The Churchill can, too.