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Offline Blagard

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Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« on: July 11, 2011, 01:40:53 PM »
On the news this evening a P51 was lost after a mid-air collision with a Skyraider. The Skyraider lost it's wingtip but landed safely. The P51 pilot bailed OK.

A sad end to historic aircraft, but excellent that there were no casualties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14110542
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 04:05:09 PM »
oh noooo, another buity gone  :frown:
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 04:40:51 PM »
Its pretty obvious that the Mustang pilot was lucky to get out.  But that Skyraider pilot was darn lucky not to loose his aircraft too.  His regaining control of it after it rolled following the collision was good flying... about 20 secs too late.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 04:43:07 PM »
Testament to survivability to the Skyraider.

Shame about the P-51.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 06:04:08 PM »
an AH pilot would've landed that...
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 06:08:01 PM »
Quote from: infowars on July 11, 2011, 06:04:08 PM
an AH pilot would've landed that...


not alive..
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 06:27:47 PM »
no matter how well the skyraider flew after he screwed up that royaly and lost sight of the plane he was following in close formation then proceeded to ram... it will not matter when the authorities and the lawyers get done with him.

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Offline Blagard

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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »
Quote from: Citabria on July 11, 2011, 06:27:47 PM
no matter how well the skyraider flew after he screwed up that royaly and lost sight of the plane he was following in close formation then proceeded to ram... it will not matter when the authorities and the lawyers get done with him.

I have watched it a few times and think that other angles are needed and the documented sequence they were flying. But it seems the Skyraider turned with the other P51 and must have taken his eye off the one he collided with. What I'm sure they will be looking at amongst other things is, what was the pre-determined movement they should have been executing. It is by no means clear from the film who was at fault. Although I do agree the Skyraider's movement does not look good!
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Offline Gary26

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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 06:55:20 PM »
I work fire suppression at our local air fest in Rockford. I have seen, The Blue Angels, Thunderbirds, Lima Lima, Team Aero Shell, and its always the Heritage flight stuff, like the 51 with F18, that scares the crap out me. There is a good reason why the teams train so hard. Its a shame to see another piece of American Heritage go down like that.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 06:57:35 PM »
I think us guessing without having the input of those involved is pointless.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 06:59:48 PM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on July 11, 2011, 06:57:35 PM
I think us guessing without having the input of those involved is pointless.

Amen.

I'd say it's best to let the parties that investigate the incident do their job in peace and then we can read what really happened from the report they publish.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 07:01:55 PM »
Quote from: infowars on July 11, 2011, 06:04:08 PM
an AH pilot would've landed that...

I never knew AH acuratley modeled jammed control surfaces after a collision....  :headscratch:
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 07:14:45 PM »
Youtube already has another angle on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_A4xdGFXoE
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 07:17:55 PM »
Overmodeled damage model.  :bolt:
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 07:20:08 PM »
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