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Offline Torquila

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #345 on: March 28, 2012, 06:46:18 AM »
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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #346 on: March 28, 2012, 06:52:56 AM »
If you want to fly by a certain set of rules, the DA is open for that. Once in the MA, you know anything goes. It is a simulation of COMBAT. A sergeant major told me once that combat is a team sport. So if you are engaged with a 1v1 and someone else comes in, well thats not fair, that's combat.

Sometimes I ask someone, hey you ok with that plane down there? And if they don't answer, or they say hey give me a hand, I come in, often times at a disadvantage for myself. If they say no go away, I got this, I go on and hope that he doesn't screw up and allow the OPFOR plane to get away to do damage to my mission or my team.

When we are suppressing a base for a take, you bet I will vulch you. That is why I rarely up from one of those bases, and I understand I may get vulched when I do. I up elsewhere and come in on top to break up the vulch. That is part of defending the base.

In short, I know that in the MA anything goes. I expect it. I use mission planning and tactics to try to stay alive and get home. Staying true to my team, to my wingman, are honorable.

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #347 on: March 28, 2012, 08:03:44 AM »
If I see 10 vs 1 and i have nothing to do, then yes i jump in  :D

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #348 on: March 28, 2012, 08:41:12 AM »
Sometimes I ask someone, hey you ok with that plane down there? And if they don't answer, or they say hey give me a hand, I come in, often times at a disadvantage for myself. If they say no go away, I got this, I go on and hope that he doesn't screw up and allow the OPFOR plane to get away to do damage to my mission or my team.

When we are suppressing a base for a take, you bet I will vulch you. That is why I rarely up from one of those bases, and I understand I may get vulched when I do. I up elsewhere and come in on top to break up the vulch. That is part of defending the base.

In short, I know that in the MA anything goes. I expect it. I use mission planning and tactics to try to stay alive and get home. Staying true to my team, to my wingman, are honorable.

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #349 on: March 28, 2012, 09:06:14 AM »
I'd also like to add (some already said by others here....)

- Honour is in the eye of the beholder

- it's hard to expect some honour in a mutil-player combat air game

- It's hard to expect some honour in the game if it is even sometimes hard to see some honour in the BBS

- Honour (whatever it means to you...) has nothing to do with style flying (turning, runing, vulching, ganging...)

- IMO, its not about how others play, it's just about how you do play and if you feel comfortable and happy with it, in the end.

- Some people focuse on flying with honour while they (IMO) show no honour at all in the CH200

- In the end, I also would like to recognize as a honourable attitude towards me all the pilots that have wasted lets say 5-10 k of altitude just to save my butt, even putting themselves in virtual danger.

Anycase, given even the fact that this is all about killing each other, I find the whole picture (I mean a quiet % of the population in the MA...respectful)
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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #350 on: March 28, 2012, 01:44:15 PM »
I'd also like to add (some already said by others here....)

- Honour is in the eye of the beholder dont agree

- it's hard to expect some honour in a mutil-player combat air game agree

- It's hard to expect some honour in the game if it is even sometimes hard to see some honour in the BBS agree

- Honour (whatever it means to you...) has nothing to do with style flying (turning, runing, vulching, ganging...) dont agree vulching is not a "style" as TnB or BnZ

- IMO, its not about how others play, it's just about how you do play and if you feel comfortable and happy with it, in the end. absolutely agree

- Some people focuse on flying with honour while they (IMO) show no honour at all in the CH200 most who show no Honor in flying show no Honor on 200 or BBS

- In the end, I also would like to recognize as a honourable attitude towards me all the pilots that have wasted lets say 5-10 k of altitude just to save my butt, even putting themselves in virtual danger.

Anycase, given even the fact that this is all about killing each other, I find the whole picture (I mean a quiet % of the population in the MA...respectful)  still thinking about this, I would agree for the most part

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #351 on: March 28, 2012, 02:42:03 PM »
Your grades were not high enough to get on the Honor Roll. Sorry... try again next year.
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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #352 on: March 28, 2012, 02:50:18 PM »


you speaking out the side of your mouth again?

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #353 on: March 28, 2012, 03:04:48 PM »

you speaking out the side of your mouth again?

umm I always speak out the side of my mouth... I'm redneck :D
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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #354 on: March 28, 2012, 03:05:42 PM »
umm I always speak out the side of my mouth... I'm redneck :D

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #355 on: March 28, 2012, 03:24:13 PM »
Ink, thanks for sharing your thoughts about my post.

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #356 on: March 28, 2012, 03:34:20 PM »
Ink, thanks for sharing your thoughts about my post.

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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #357 on: March 28, 2012, 04:59:59 PM »
I usually don't think much about how others fly around me, it's their $14.95. I am very used to getting hoed, for the most part I have learned how to avoid getting killed by their ho attempts by now. I am not saying that I have never hoed myself, I know I have. But that is not my style to put it that way.
I have also many times given my opponent an escort back after I have shot off half his wing or damaged him so much that the fight is over for his part, then I have my moments where I let him limp home. And that makes me feel alot better than if I line up behind him and blow him outta the sky when he tries to make it home.

But there was one night a few nights ago that I had to say to myself 'what the heck was that?!' We were defending this base from attacks from a nearby cv, and flew off to meet the lifters from this cv. I was in my Dhog twisting and turning with this spit, and was starting to get closer and closer to gun solution on him. Just as I was about to pull the trigger one of my team players zoomed by in lightning speed and killed the spit right infront of me.. Ok I thought, fair enough.. I probably took too long to kill him anyway, so I went after another. And managed to get 2-3 kills before all us remaining fighters went rtb. Halfway back to our base I looked at the map, and I saw one green dot remaining by the cv surrounded by red. So I turned back to give him a hand, as he probably got held up in a fight when the others rtb'd.. When I got closer I saw it was the same pilot that just snuck my spit, but I jumped into the fight as he was vs 3 all alone. I gave him a check6 and got the pack spread out so he could get some distance, and suddenly I was 1vs3.. After a while I started looking for help because it was limited how long I could stay alive out there in my hog on full flaps vs a couple spits and a F6F.. And where was the guy I just helped? Oh he was half way back to base allready.. :rolleyes: Offcourse I died right there..    :bhead
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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #358 on: March 28, 2012, 05:10:07 PM »
I usually don't think much about how others fly around me, it's their $14.95. I am very used to getting hoed, for the most part I have learned how to avoid getting killed by their ho attempts by now. I am not saying that I have never hoed myself, I know I have. But that is not my style to put it that way.
I have also many times given my opponent an escort back after I have shot off half his wing or damaged him so much that the fight is over for his part, then I have my moments where I let him limp home. And that makes me feel alot better than if I line up behind him and blow him outta the sky when he tries to make it home.

But there was one night a few nights ago that I had to say to myself 'what the heck was that?!' We were defending this base from attacks from a nearby cv, and flew off to meet the lifters from this cv. I was in my Dhog twisting and turning with this spit, and was starting to get closer and closer to gun solution on him. Just as I was about to pull the trigger one of my team players zoomed by in lightning speed and killed the spit right infront of me.. Ok I thought, fair enough.. I probably took too long to kill him anyway, so I went after another. And managed to get 2-3 kills before all us remaining fighters went rtb. Halfway back to our base I looked at the map, and I saw one green dot remaining by the cv surrounded by red. So I turned back to give him a hand, as he probably got held up in a fight when the others rtb'd.. When I got closer I saw it was the same pilot that just snuck my spit, but I jumped into the fight as he was vs 3 all alone. I gave him a check6 and got the pack spread out so he could get some distance, and suddenly I was 1vs3.. After a while I started looking for help because it was limited how long I could stay alive out there in my hog on full flaps vs a couple spits and a F6F.. And where was the guy I just helped? Oh he was half way back to base allready.. :rolleyes: Offcourse I died right there..    :bhead

No good deed goes unpunished...I would have changed sides and kilt him.  OH!  You can't change sides but every 12 hours...nevermind.
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Re: wat ever happended to pilots with honor
« Reply #359 on: March 28, 2012, 05:13:15 PM »
If I'm not expecting to die, one of my rules in a situation like you described SA173 is to clear him but keep the speed to get out.  I only expect people to help me if they're squaddies.  Everyone else I expect to save their own skin, and I always expect to die if I get low and slow helping them.

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